Russian silver forks with crest

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Fnugent
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Russian silver forks with crest

Postby Fnugent » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:31 pm

Hello, I am hoping someone can help identify the marks on the Russian silver fork images below. I have searched this site and others for similar silver marks but can not find any. There are 11 large dinner forks and 7 small dessert/salad forks - all have the eagle crest. I appreciate very much any help.
Thanks

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Re: Russian silver forks with crest

Postby AG2012 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:20 pm

Hi,
Welcome to the forum.
Why Russian ?
One makerş mark belongs to William Eley, William Fearn & William Chawner (London).
Initials WC (partial mark ?) on top can be William Chawner II.
Different date letters.
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Re: Russian silver forks with crest

Postby Fnugent » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:29 pm

I was told they were Russian. There may have been some confusion about the two headed eagle crest being similar to the Russian imperial crest. Thanks so much for your quick response- good to know the true origin.

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Re: Russian silver forks with crest

Postby AG2012 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:03 am

Hello again,
If you wonder what`s small ``flower`` mark beside sponsor`s mark (far left), it`s journeyman's mark who was the actual flatware maker, employed by the the sponsor.
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Re: Russian silver forks with crest

Postby Aguest » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:35 am

The double-headed eagle has been used at least as far back as the Hittite Empire (1700-1200 BC) and since then it has been used as a symbol of royal authority by various cultures, including the Byzantine Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, Russia, Albania, Mysore (in India), Yugoslavia, Austria, Serbia, Spain, Germany, the list goes on and on :::

I also assumed it was a symbol of Imperial Russian Authority for a long time, but the more I learned about it, the more I realized that many cultures claim the double-headed eagle as a symbol of power and authority :::

It's much more complex than I originally thought :::

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Re: Russian silver forks with crest

Postby Fnugent » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:54 am

Very interesting points. Many thanks to you both!


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