Who is the maker JS of this snake and shell salt spoon?

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Who is the maker JS of this snake and shell salt spoon?

Postby lindmcc » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:40 pm

This spoon was made in London in 1848. Can anyone identify the maker's mark JS please?

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Postby Granmaa » Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:03 am

This is quite a tricky one. Perhaps James Sambrook who started in 1819 as a smallworker. Wait for conformation on this though.

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Postby lindmcc » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:48 am

It has been suggested to me that John Samuel Hunt used 'JS' on small items, rather than the ISH he used elsewhere. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Postby Scotprov » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:55 pm

I think you will find it is John Stone, London spoon maker, mark regd 17/6/1844

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Postby lindmcc » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:16 am

Thank you very much for that information Richard. I am in the process of obtaining several reference books and will certainly look for John Stone's entry.
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Postby Scotprov » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:53 pm

It's in the Directory of Gold & Silversmiths 1838 - 1914 Pt II by John Culme. Part I has all the details of the smiths.
Quite expensive, very detailed and very useful, out of print, but sometimes pops up if you hunt around on the internet or book shops (if you are lucky).

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Postby lindmcc » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:47 pm

I now have copies of both volumes of these books, at great expense, as well as a copy of Jackson's. The John Stone who registered the mark in London lived in Exeter. A John Stone had a mark registered in Exeter. It was identical except for a dot in the middle. I am wondering if it is safe to assume they were one and the same person.
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Postby Scotprov » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:55 pm

I would say yes, John Stone of Exeter was working, according to Jackson (1989), from 1825 when he was mentioned in the Freeman's List, until 1867. Culme has the London registered mark in the 1840s with that Stone living in Exeter. If we look further in Culme, there is James Shipwright, who had the J.S mark in 1850, from Vol 1 he was around a bit earlier, so he may have registered the J.S, so Stone used JS for items assayed in London?
All good history.

Richard
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Postby lindmcc » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:51 pm

Thank you Richard.
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Postby carling » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:16 pm

Scotprov wrote:I would say yes, John Stone of Exeter was working, according to Jackson (1989), from 1825 when he was mentioned in the Freeman's List, until 1867. Culme has the London registered mark in the 1840s with that Stone living in Exeter. If we look further in Culme, there is James Shipwright, who had the J.S mark in 1850, from Vol 1 he was around a bit earlier, so he may have registered the J.S, so Stone used JS for items assayed in London?
All good history.

Richard


I've always thought this spoon was by John Stone (Exeter 1851) - no centre pellet - but in light of the above I am not now so sure. Any thoughts?

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I should clean my spoons. LOL

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Postby lindmcc » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:28 pm

Jackson's lists both a John Scardon and a John Sweet, Exeter 1823, in the list of Exeter and West Country goldsmiths. I wonder if either of these could be your Exeter JS. I have also done a search on Google and found at http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Exeter/E ... e1830.html a list from the 1822-23 edition of Pigot's Directory that shows John Scardon at Gandy's Street and John Sweet at Pancras Lane.
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