Matching Cream & Sugar - different marks?

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Adam.NYC
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Matching Cream & Sugar - different marks?

Postby Adam.NYC » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:09 am

This creamer and sugar are an obvious pair; they both have the same heraldic symbol. The difference is in the marks. The creamer has the mark of Daniel and Charles Houle, London 1877. The sugar bowl has an illegible maker's mark (W and a second letter which may be I, P or T?). The year mark is 1802. I understand that some silver was made to order and maybe the creamer was made at a later date to match the sugar bowl but it still seems strange that these 2 pieces were made 75 years apart. Am I missing something? Thanks again!
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Re: Matching Cream & Sugar - different marks?

Postby dognose » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:40 am

Hi Adam,

Most likely the later piece was made as a replacement for a damaged or lost part of a larger set.

The original maker was William Frisbee, who entered that particular mark on the 2nd June 1801. Frisbee was earlier in partnership with the great Paul Storr.

Trev.

Adam.NYC
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Re: Matching Cream & Sugar - different marks?

Postby Adam.NYC » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:52 am

Thanks for your quick response. I think that mark is missing from the London marks. I searched and couldn't find it. Am I wrong?

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Re: Matching Cream & Sugar - different marks?

Postby asheland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:59 am

I agree that's probably a replacement. Very well matched indeed!

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Re: Matching Cream & Sugar - different marks?

Postby dognose » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:21 pm

I think that there were around 5,000 marks entered with the London Assay Office between 1700-1850, and that does not include the lost registers. It'll be awhile before we've got the lot :)

Trev.

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Re: Matching Cream & Sugar - different marks?

Postby Adam.NYC » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:49 pm

Thanks to all!


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