Another Hanoverian teaspoon????

[polo_fer_lauren]

Hello from Andalucia!!!!!

Firstly apologise me for my gran ignorance!!!!!. When you say "Hanoverian", What do you want to say??? Is Hanoverian a period?? Is a Style???.....I think is about The House of Hanover in England, doesn't It?.
I thought this spoon was without valor, because the spoon does not carry out with the English rules of hallmark..........NO city mark, No date letters, No duty mark!!!!!!!!...........Ohh my God, this is to go mad!!!

Can you help me with this spoon???, Who was the Maker?, Could you date it?...........Is it really Sterling silver?.




Thank you for all.

Fer.
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[Granmaa]

I can clear a few things up for you. "Hanoverian" refers to a style of spoon where the end of the stem curves upwards to the front side of the bowl. It is called Hanoverian because this style roughly coincided with the accession to the throne of George I of the house of Hanover. This is a Hanoverian spoon.
This looks like a teaspoon to me; if it is then its perfectly normal for there to be simply a lion passant and a maker's mark. It is sterling silver. Have a look at some of the spoons I've posted in this forum.
The duty mark began in 1784 so I wouldn't expect to see it here on a spoon which looks to me as c.1760. Don't quote me on that date.

I have two questions of my own: has there been a repair to the joint where the bowl joins the handle? And could you have a really hard look at the maker's mark and tell us what you see. It seems as if a P has been stamped over a B and another letter, but I'm not quite sure.

Miles
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[polo_fer_lauren]

Dear Miles!
Thank you very much for your help!

I'm sorry for my bad English. This language allways was a failed subject to me!!!!!!!.

On the one hand I think the spoon never was repair. The joint looks good.
On the other hand, look up the new photo. The marker mark's looks like a "B" and a "P" inside a rounded cartouche.

What do you think about the marks?.

Thank you again.

Fernando.
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[Granmaa]

This BP definitely seems to have been stamped over another mark which, judging by the differing shapes of the cartouches, is by another maker. This is called overstamping, but this is the earliest spoon I've seen it on.
I'm afraid I don't recognize the BP maker, but here are some old threads on overstamping which you might find interesting.


http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3549
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3453

PS Vuestro Ingles es mucho mejor que mi Espanol - so there's no need to apologize!

Yours,
Miles
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[polo_fer_lauren]

Thank you Miles!

Like you can see I'm just a beginner. Your help is very appreciated to me. I'm learning by you so much.
I don't understand one thing, which was the objective of overstamping?.

Changing the subject, Could you tell me a web page where I can read of style os English spoon?.

Best regards.

Fernando.
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[Granmaa]

That was the question we didn't quite manage to answer definitely. It's most likely that large manufacturers bought silver from other makers, sold it themselves and put their own mark on it to take responsibility. However, this is largely conjecture.

Here is a good site for spoon patterns:
http://www.antiquesilverspoons.co.uk/patterns.htm

Miles
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