coffee pot maker ID and date

[rynegold]

I'm going to post several pieces I've come across of late but this one has no maker's mark on the bottom, and the date letter throws me. Hopefully someone with some experience can ID the date and style.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/19089828@N00/13767266344/in/photostream/

The only marks I can find... if there was a maker's mark on the bottom, it's been scraped off.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/19089828@N00/13766755373/in/photostream/

thanks, mitch

[silvermakersmarks]

I suspect this one is going to provoke some debate. The marks look wrong to me so I suspect it could be a pseudo-mark. The lion passant upside down with relation to the leopard's head and date letter is most unusual and the punch shape and apparent shape of the lion's head are all ringing alarm bells with me. It will be interesting to see what our other contributors have to say.

Phil

[silvermakersmarks]

On second thoughts this may be OK for a London 1729 mark, but I still don't like the upside-down lion passant.

Phil

[rynegold]

Greetings Phil and thanks for the help! May I ask, does this "look/appear" to be a piece in the style of that day? Repousse work was done this nicely? regularly in the late 18th? I can tell you that having been a jeweler/gold and silver manufacturer for 38 years now, I've come across some pretty cool stuff. This piece and the others I"ll be posting about here shortly are remnants of a once wealthy family who's Grandmother was "in the money" by the late 30's and, a customer of mine late in her life. They owned the good stuff. Of course in any event fakes abound but from back then? I guess so... Anyway, still interested in you opinion concerning the style/construction of the piece. Come to think of it, was coffee that popular by 1780??

Thanks again for your opinions and help.

regards, m

[silvermakersmarks]

The style of the coffee pot looks fine for a 1729 date. I'm not enough of an expert to know whether the repoussé work is original or a later addition, although I suspect it's more likely to be the latter as it seems to have elements in common with the Victorian work seen on berry spoons.