London 1800 maker SA

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London 1800 maker SA

Postby carlislepaul » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:43 am

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A caddy spoon London 1800/01 maker SA with a journey mans mark.

Can anybody please confirm that I am correct in identifying this maker as Stephen Adams 1 as opposed to his son.

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Paul

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Re: London 1800 maker SA

Postby dognose » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:28 pm

Hi Paul,

From the snippets of information that I've read over the years, the Adams workshops were a single business only. Grimwade suggests that SA I 'retired about 1790', but this is incorrect as an Old Bailey trial reveals he was very much still in charge of the business in 1798, see: http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.j ... 7980214-58

SA I died 1802/3 (see: viewtopic.php?f=74&t=32565&p=81936)and no further marks were registered to the business for some ten years, so these marks were really those of the business and not to much attribution should be paid to whether they belong to SA I or SA II.

Trev.

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Re: London 1800 maker SA

Postby silvermakersmarks » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:36 pm

More likely the son. Grimwade asserts that Adams senior probably retired about 1790 and died c1802. See also the additional entries on the 2 Adamses on this forum here and here.

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Re: London 1800 maker SA

Postby carlislepaul » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:48 am

Trev/Phil

Thank you both for the replies.

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Paul


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