Hallmark help for walking stick found on St Helena (!)
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:06 am
Hi,
I've tried to do a bit of research about this walking stick I obtained as a child on the British island, St Helena.
I found it (from memory!) in about 1984 behind a hall dresser in either the Bishop's residence or Government House, on the island.
It was then gifted to me. Sadly, being only 7 or so, I used it as a hammer sometime afterward...though this is all by the by.
(Note, I think the makers mark is Bristol, but I couldn't locate a 'Bristol Hallmarks' area).
I believe (from this site) that, the marks (left to right) are:
1) Makers mark; H&E or perhaps H&F,
Probably: H&F into a rectangle William Sydney Hall Edward Thurston Davies trading as Hall & Fitzgerald, 147 Temple Street, Bristol. See the section of "TOBACCONISTS, PIPE MAKERS, PIPE MOUNTERS" marks.
Birmingham 1908 hallmark (from another website)
2) The Silver mark is - the lion 'A' Sterling .925.
3) The city mark is too worn to identify; I cannot even locate a shield with the little notches cut into it.
Without a city mark, I've just looked at the London Date letters - and get 1927, based on the edges of the bottom of the 'm'.
So.... What do you think? I was doubtful about the 'm' but 1927 looks to be a better fit than 1887? My dating is however based on it being a London 'date'. Rather than a 'Bristol' date.
To sum up:
1) Guessed makers mark; H&F Hall & Fitzgerald, Bristol. I've seen images of the mark and item and I'm pretty sure this is it.
2) Silver quality - pretty sure it's the lion 'A' Sterling .925.
3) City unknown?
4) Date; 1927 looks to be a better fit than 1887
Any help with corrections and filling in the blank would be appreciated.
Thanks
Peter
Pics:
Hallmarks:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TIXSG1KUwQg/UlIY5B5XlmI/AAAAAAAABEs/KhlXnFP1xx0/s1440/IMG_7918sm.jpg
Full walking stick.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3MshbFoixMM/UlIY5tH0fvI/AAAAAAAABEs/-D6yZCwbwPE/s1440/IMG_7924sm.jpg
I've tried to do a bit of research about this walking stick I obtained as a child on the British island, St Helena.
I found it (from memory!) in about 1984 behind a hall dresser in either the Bishop's residence or Government House, on the island.
It was then gifted to me. Sadly, being only 7 or so, I used it as a hammer sometime afterward...though this is all by the by.
(Note, I think the makers mark is Bristol, but I couldn't locate a 'Bristol Hallmarks' area).
I believe (from this site) that, the marks (left to right) are:
1) Makers mark; H&E or perhaps H&F,
Probably: H&F into a rectangle William Sydney Hall Edward Thurston Davies trading as Hall & Fitzgerald, 147 Temple Street, Bristol. See the section of "TOBACCONISTS, PIPE MAKERS, PIPE MOUNTERS" marks.
Birmingham 1908 hallmark (from another website)
2) The Silver mark is - the lion 'A' Sterling .925.
3) The city mark is too worn to identify; I cannot even locate a shield with the little notches cut into it.
Without a city mark, I've just looked at the London Date letters - and get 1927, based on the edges of the bottom of the 'm'.
So.... What do you think? I was doubtful about the 'm' but 1927 looks to be a better fit than 1887? My dating is however based on it being a London 'date'. Rather than a 'Bristol' date.
To sum up:
1) Guessed makers mark; H&F Hall & Fitzgerald, Bristol. I've seen images of the mark and item and I'm pretty sure this is it.
2) Silver quality - pretty sure it's the lion 'A' Sterling .925.
3) City unknown?
4) Date; 1927 looks to be a better fit than 1887
Any help with corrections and filling in the blank would be appreciated.
Thanks
Peter
Pics:
Hallmarks:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TIXSG1KUwQg/UlIY5B5XlmI/AAAAAAAABEs/KhlXnFP1xx0/s1440/IMG_7918sm.jpg
Full walking stick.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3MshbFoixMM/UlIY5tH0fvI/AAAAAAAABEs/-D6yZCwbwPE/s1440/IMG_7924sm.jpg