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Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:10 pm
by excalibur1661
Hello,

I have this Georgian cream jug with maker's mark 'AB' (please see the attached pictures). The on-line resouces have 'AB" in conjunction with 'PB'. I was wondering if you are familiar with any instances of Anne Bateman marking on her own, or could this be the mark of another maker that I can not locate.

Thank you for your expert opinion as always.

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Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:10 pm
by techsol
The duty mark doesn't look right to me, I wonder if it's a colonial piece.

Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:47 pm
by buckler
Too late for Ann Bickerton

Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:04 pm
by dognose
Hi,

It's Peter and Ann Bateman, the mark has been partialy off struck and then followed by two hundred years of polishing, but you can just still make out the base of the 'P' above the 'A'.

The production of creamers was a big part of the output of the Bateman workshops.

Trev.

Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:35 am
by nigel le sueur
Trev
Well spotted
Nigel

Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:01 pm
by SilverSurfer
For whatever reason, the PB/AB and PB/AB/WB stamps seem to be struck off-axis more often than not, from what I've seen. Almost rare to see on deeply and fully struck. I wonder why.

SS

Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:53 am
by agphile
I suppose that on a deeper punch with one set of initials above another the effect of not striking it vertically would be magnified. And in a workshop with a large output there might not have been quite the same care over each strike.

Re: Help needed on a George III cream jugMark

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:50 pm
by excalibur1661
dognose wrote:Hi,

It's Peter and Ann Bateman, the mark has been partialy off struck and then followed by two hundred years of polishing, but you can just still make out the base of the 'P' above the 'A'.

The production of creamers was a big part of the output of the Bateman workshops.

Trev.

Hi,

What a brilliant and well-informed answer. Thank you so much.

Fred.