An interesting item - Date confirmation?

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piette
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An interesting item - Date confirmation?

Postby piette » Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:07 pm

Hi all-
Here is an interesting item for you all to look at:
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Marks:
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It is a lovely Sugar bowl - nice shape and style. 21cm in diameter including the handles and the opening of the bowl is 10cm in diameter. Total weight is 396g.

Maker: Edward, Edward Junior, John & William Barnard (I believe this mark was registered in 1829 and used up until 1846? This maker is known to have made tea services - I understand this piece would have originally been one of a set. Only days after buying it at auction I saw a full set by the same maker which included the same style sugar bowl [without the engraved decoration] for sale in a local antiques shop at Barnard Castle.)
Assay: London
Monarch: Victoria (1837-1901)

The date letter is my problem - it is extremely rubbed and hardly remains at all.
The monarchs mark, and information on the maker has allowed me to narrow it down to 1837-1846, and out of the date letters used in London at those times, I think it most resembles the mark for 1842:
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Would you agree?

Sorry if this is a stupid question considering how rubbed the mark is - I would just like to pinpoint it down to one year.

Regards,
Piette

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Re: An interesting item - Date confirmation?

Postby MCB » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:30 am

Hello Piette

As you say the Barnards' mark on the bowl was probably in use until 1846 when another was registered omitting the first "E" to signify the retirement around this time of Edward Barnard senior.

The duty mark seems most close to the one which came into use in 1840-1. For comparison that mark and the two previous ones of 1837 and 1839 are illustrated on page 62 of Jackson's book

In the 1840-6 London date letter sequence but only on the balance of possibility the remnants of the date mark on the bowl do look closest to the one you illustrate for 1842.

Regards
Mike

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Re: An interesting item - Date confirmation?

Postby piette » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:21 pm

Hi Mike,
Thank you for this reassurange.
Regards,
Piette


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