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London 1799 maker IB
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:08 pm
by carlislepaul
If I have correctly read these marks as London 1799 then Grimwade gives 4 possibles.
Can one of the experts please narrow it down for me?
Regards
Paul
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:56 am
by dognose
Hi Paul,
My money would be on John Blake who was a prolific maker of spoons at this time, also the addition of a journeymen's mark indicates that this piece has come from a large workshop that Blake surely, with the amount of surviving pieces from his and his widows/son partnership, must have had.
Regards Trev.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:53 pm
by Granmaa
The horrible IB combination. Many makers used it, and the marks look so similar.
A search for Blake and Bourne on the site will reveal how many members it has confused. I'm certainly amongst them.
Miles
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IB
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:25 pm
by carlislepaul
Gents
Many thanks.
John Blake was my first thought, but I shall keep an open mind.
Regards
Paul
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:58 pm
by buckler
I agree with Granmaa. When I see the dreaded IB mark my heart sinks. So many possibilities. What is so surprising is the number of dealers who will cheerfully attribute it to a mythical John Buckle !
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:49 pm
by admin
Is there any possibility that there is a trace of a pellet at center?
Tom
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:24 am
by buckler
Although not relevent to the current spoon question I have a suspect for the mysterious IB who appears on buckles ond tongs of the late eighteenth century- both pre and post 1784
James Baker
Goldsmiths Hall Apprentice Book 9, page 2 records the apprenticeship in 1779 of James Baker, son of James Baker to William Cox to be taught the trade of Bucklemaker.
William Cox is probably William Cox II, and the father of the apprentice may well be the James Baker given by Grimwade as entering a mark as smallworker 19 April 1759 at New Court Bunhill Row .
In PR1773 at same address, no category
Probably either he or his son was the James Baker, Goldsmith of St James Clerkenwell whose will was proved at PCC 6 Aug1793
(PROB 11/1235)
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