help with a mote spoon

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help with a mote spoon

Postby rat-tail » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:20 pm

Hi
Found this delightful, if somewhat battered little mote spoon, and would like any help with the maker - may be impossible because the marks are awefully squashed and the piece impossible to photograph. Assume it's George II by the decoration on the spoon. Maker looks like RH or could be RP. The smudges mark on the left is I think the remnants of the lion passant, and am not sure whether the smudge at the end of the makers mark is just that or the remains of a third mark, but presume such a flimsy spoon as this would only have two marks. - Any thoughts appreciated. - thanks Frank

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Postby agphile » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:59 pm

This won't be a lot of help. I have a Hanoverian teaspoon of the period with RH as the maker's mark. I will need to dig the spoon out to see how closely it matches your mark. There were too many RHs in Grimwade for me to identify mine confidently. My notes say it best matched Roger Hare - smallworker's mark entered 1738 - but I don't know whether he was a spoonmaker and Grimwade confuses the issue for me by suggesting he may have been a spur maker because his address was "at the Hand and Spur".
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Postby rat-tail » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:42 am

Many thanks - all thoughts appreciated. It would confirm my estimation of date as C1740. - Frank
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Postby agphile » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:44 am

I have now dug out my teaspoon - small Hanoverian with double drop. The RH is in a smallish punch as your mark must be to fit the stem of a mote spoon. I can't swear thay are the same mark because of the distortions of wear - we would need to be able to put the two side by side to judge definitively - but it seems probable. And in Grimwade Roger Hare is indeed the best match to mine for size and spacing of the letters.
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