What does designate the letter O?

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What does designate the letter O?

Postby Elena Russ » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:54 am

Hello, dear sirs!

Could you please help me to read two markers on my article? These are the maker’s mark and the mark with the letter «O». I have not the catalogue with Swedish silversmiths and town marks. I cannot compare the markers… May be will somebody be able to recommended me the special literature and where I can buy it? I would be very grateful…

Beside these two markers my items bears the following stamp:
the head of Saint Eric and Swedish dating cod «Е7» (1907).

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Re: What does designate the letter O?

Postby Qrt.S » Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:47 pm

Interesting mark. I will forward your question to another forum and if I get an answer I revert to you

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Re: What does designate the letter O?

Postby Qrt.S » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:16 am

I have an answer but it is a bit vague. Take a closer look at the marks and you will find that they are over marked with other marks. Don't ask me why. Look at the cartuoche with the L mark. Is it rectangular or round e.g. Lidköping or Linköping in Sweden? The maker's mark is also difficult read, is it AEN, ABN or what.That makes it difficult indeed to say something about the maker. Before this discussion continues I would appreciate if you show me a picture of this St:Erik's mark you mentioned in your original question. That might give us a better clue. The 0's meaning is unclear. It could so called journeyman's mark or type mark or? Sorry.

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Re: What does designate the letter O?

Postby Elena Russ » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:24 pm

Qrt.S wrote:I have an answer but it is a bit vague. Take a closer look at the marks and you will find that they are over marked with other marks. Don't ask me why. Look at the cartuoche with the L mark. Is it rectangular or round e.g. Lidköping or Linköping in Sweden? The maker's mark is also difficult read, is it AEN, ABN or what.That makes it difficult indeed to say something about the maker. Before this discussion continues I would appreciate if you show me a picture of this St:Erik's mark you mentioned in your original question. That might give us a better clue. The 0's meaning is unclear. It could so called journeyman's mark or type mark or? Sorry.


Hi, dear Qrt.S!

Unfortunately I will not be able to give more detailed information that in the first post.
My item bears 5 marks:
1. AEN — the silversmith’s mark
2. Three crowns
3. the head of Saint Eric
4. Е7 - dating cod
I am sure that third mark is the head of Saint Eric, as I have one more item with marks like on the aforementioned kettle:

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To the point, there is additional unknown marks «J» too...

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Re: What does designate the letter O?

Postby Qrt.S » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:18 am

Let's start upside down. First of all Elena, please do not enter a new question in an old thread. You must open a new thread! Otherwise it will only be a mess and possible back tracing will be almost impossible.
Secondly you could also easily have found the answer to you new question in the link I gave you in another reply. Here it is: http://stamps.swedac.se/index_ie.asp?sLang=en
However, the answer is here: GAB is Guldsmedsaktiebolaget (Goldsmith company) in Stockholm SE founded 1868. Your object is made in 1909. Here you have a typical mark of Stockholm's saint St:Eriks' head

About your original question regarding AEN. I'm afraid I don't know more about it.

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Re: What does designate the letter O?

Postby Elena Russ » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:01 am

Qrt.S wrote:Let's start upside down. First of all Elena, please do not enter a new question in an old thread. You must open a new thread! Otherwise it will only be a mess and possible back tracing will be almost impossible.
Secondly you could also easily have found the answer to you new question in the link I gave you in another reply. Here it is: http://stamps.swedac.se/index_ie.asp?sLang=en
However, the answer is here: GAB is Guldsmedsaktiebolaget (Goldsmith company) in Stockholm SE founded 1868. Your object is made in 1909. Here you have a typical mark of Stockholm's saint St:Eriks' head

About your original question regarding AEN. I'm afraid I don't know more about it.


Hello, dear Qrt.S.

You did not understand me. I did not ask new question. Representing new marks I wanted to emphasize that there is the mark with the head of Saint Eric on the teapot, but not letter «L», as you indicated in your answer. Also, I wanted to show that second set of the mark has the additional mark — letter «J» like the teapot has the letter «0». I thought that extra marks are regular stamps for Swedish items.
In any case I thank you for you answer.

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Re: What does designate the letter O?

Postby Qrt.S » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:05 am

OK, sorry about that. Anyway, I still think that the letter possibly is a so called "journeyman's mark", or?

Rgds

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