Silver basket

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huszas76
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Silver basket

Post by huszas76 »

Dear Members!
I would like to you to help identify the maker (and assay master) of this silver basket.

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Unfortunately the marks (and the punch of the maker) is worn.
It is obvious for me, that the item is from Moscow, fineness 84 zolotnik.
I found 2 possibilities for the assay master but I'm not sure about the reading. it is N.K or И.K.
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The first 2 characters of the year it is 18 and the last one is 4.
The mark of the maker is worst if it is possible.
Surely i tried from every side, but I can't read.
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These pictures from the handle:
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Upside down
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The maker's mark next to the pin:
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I can't read the marks. from some angle seems to me K, but if I see upside down I see Я
I see now, some of the pictures little bit out of focus, and some of them glinted a little so. if it is necessary I can make more.

Please, try to identify.
Thank you for your help!
Best regards!
Krisztián
Juke*
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Re: Silver basket

Post by Juke* »

Hi!

The assay master is most probably Ivan Konstantinov (ик) so it narrows down the years to 1872-71. Thereby the year would be 1876 if the last number is 6.

The makers mark is quite difficult.

Regards,
Juke
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Re: Silver basket

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Here a shot in the dark:
In my eyes the assayer's mark looks like И.К It would be Ivan Konstantinov who assayed in Moscow 1874-1883. The troinik’s year mark doesn’t have notches. That dates it to between (1874)-1881 (actually not later than end of Jan. 82, in Feb. 1882 the fineness mark got its notches). Also the shape of the town mark's shield, a rectangle with cut corners, supports my suggestion.

The maker’s mark has an ordinary dot. What letters could it be? И.К, Н.К or ??? (N.K is out of question. N is not a Cyrillic Letter). That is the big question here! In my eyes it looks like H.K but ??? The maker is a tricky case!
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Re: Silver basket

Post by Juke* »

Small typo in my suggested years which were according to PL so the years 1872-1881.

As Qrt.S has investigated the PL corrections so the years would be 1874-1883.

Anyway the year would be 1876 if the last number is 6.
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