Jewelry14
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silverstar777
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Jewelry14
pls tell me what hallmarks are this?
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New try:
First of all NOT Russian but Soviet made. The difference/quality between Russian made and Soviet made is more than enormous. Anyway it is made in: Ювелирно Часовая Мастерская in Ташкент (Jewelry Watch Workshop in Tashkent (Capital in Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic) 1958. It is a СТОПКА (Stopka is a small traditional Russian vodka cup).
First of all NOT Russian but Soviet made. The difference/quality between Russian made and Soviet made is more than enormous. Anyway it is made in: Ювелирно Часовая Мастерская in Ташкент (Jewelry Watch Workshop in Tashkent (Capital in Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic) 1958. It is a СТОПКА (Stopka is a small traditional Russian vodka cup).
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Sorry, when things go wrong everything goes wrong. Made in 1955 in Tbilisi, capital of Georgia.
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A small correction - 1965. The star was not used until 1958.
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Mind my saying but there are two kinds of this star punch. The first one where the hammer and sickle are marked with contours only as from 14th July 1959 to 15th November 1965 and a second one as from 16th November 1965 to 1st October 1992, where the hammer and sickle in the star are massive. Unfortunately the picture doesn't show which one star it is. Could be 1965 ...but?
Another minor problem is that according to my source this maker's mark was used in a factory punching ТЮ5 in two different places i.e. in Тбилиси 1955 and also in 1965 but as well in Ташкент in 1965. The year 1955 is therefore out due to the above mentioned reason, the punch. But...which one place is correct?
See Troepolskaja down on page 639:
Ювелирно Часовая Мастерская г. Ташкент 1965 #20172
(Ювелирно Часовая Фабрика г. Тбилиси 1955) # 20173
Ювелирная Фабрика г. Тбилиси 1965 #20174
Clarification needed, thank you! I'm a bit lost now and as said; when things get lost they are lost...very confusing...
Another minor problem is that according to my source this maker's mark was used in a factory punching ТЮ5 in two different places i.e. in Тбилиси 1955 and also in 1965 but as well in Ташкент in 1965. The year 1955 is therefore out due to the above mentioned reason, the punch. But...which one place is correct?
See Troepolskaja down on page 639:
Ювелирно Часовая Мастерская г. Ташкент 1965 #20172
(Ювелирно Часовая Фабрика г. Тбилиси 1955) # 20173
Ювелирная Фабрика г. Тбилиси 1965 #20174
Clarification needed, thank you! I'm a bit lost now and as said; when things get lost they are lost...very confusing...
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Hi,
Letter Г is clearly seen in the mark; it stands for Tbilisi assay office, right?
Tashkent assay office was assigned letter T.
Regards
Letter Г is clearly seen in the mark; it stands for Tbilisi assay office, right?
Tashkent assay office was assigned letter T.
Regards
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Example of Ювелирная фабрика г. Тбилиси 1961.
Meeaning, the spoons were made by the same manufacturer in Tbilisi 1965.
Regards
Meeaning, the spoons were made by the same manufacturer in Tbilisi 1965.
Regards
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The first type of star is in this topic. The question of the periods of application of stars in different factories is unfortunately not so simple).
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Г means Tbilisi assay office.
Tashkent is 3000 km away.
Whatever was made in Ювелирная Фабрика г. Тбилиси was assayed in Tbilisi.
Everything is clear here.
Tashkent is 3000 km away.
Whatever was made in Ювелирная Фабрика г. Тбилиси was assayed in Tbilisi.
Everything is clear here.
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Yes it is, no problem any moore.