Russian silver PEN

[kamilekbozek]

Hi.
Can you help me with identic this pen?

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[kamilekbozek]

[quote="kamilekbozek"]Hi.
Can you help me with identic this pen?

[AG2012]

Hi,
Karl Bock had workshops and retail stores in both Moscow and St Petersburg.Your pen was made by another silversmith whose initials are not clear (the first letter) and assayed in St Petersburg (Greek letter alpha).

The mark was used after 1908 for small silver items (less than 8.5 grams).
Regards

[kamilekbozek]

Hi,
Karl Bock had workshops and retail stores in both Moscow and St Petersburg.Your pen was made by another silversmith whose initials are not clear (the first letter) and assayed in St Petersburg (Greek letter alpha).

The mark was used after 1908 for small silver items (less than 8.5 grams).
Regards

This letter is RP I think.

[Qrt.S]

Please show some close ups of the marks only. It looks like the case and the pen do not match. The maker's mark seems to be ЯР, but? This mark has, anyway, nothing to do with the name on the box. As said better close-ups thank you.

[kamilekbozek]

Please show some close ups of the marks only. It looks like the case and the pen do not match. The maker's mark seems to be ЯР, but? This mark has, anyway, nothing to do with the name on the box. As said better close-ups thank you.

I find something! It’s possible this silversmith is a Reimann Jan?!

[AG2012]

There was яков реймер in St Petersburg at the time,cannot find more silversmiths with initials яp
(yakov reimer).
Regards

[kamilekbozek]

There was яков реймер in St Petersburg at the time,cannot find more silversmiths with initials яp
(yakov reimer).
Regards

We have a little bit problem. This pen have weight about 15g - not 8.5g

[AG2012]

Pen holder is hollow silver, the nib and insert are not silver.Small item by definition.
Besides,legislation cannot be judged strictly even by today's standards;a few grams make no difference.

[Qrt.S]

I found a few more in St. P. than Jan Reimer 1908-1913:
Yakov Rimmer 1908-1917
Yakov Rozhansky 1914
Yakov Rosen 1895-1917
Yakov Rotstein 1916

Anyway, as already mentioned the box and pen are not a pair. Somebody has probably paired them in hope of better profit from an unknowing buyer. Karl Bock was a famous Court supplier. The same mark should be on the pen too in case it was made by Bock. The double eagle mark on the box is the Court supplier mark and it increases the value. In case you have recently bought the pen, you have probably paid too much. If I were you, I would return it and claim refunding. Both are real, but that is not the point here.