Silversmith 84 silver

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Silversmith 84 silver

Postby HoriaTanase » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:15 am

Hello. Can anyone tell me who is the silversmith that marked this russian silver object ? Thanks a lot!

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby Qrt.S » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:15 pm

Unfortunately the maker АШ. is unknown (at least to me). Maybe somebody else can identify the maker. However, the object is made in Moscow 1908-1917(26). The text states:

"A memory to dear Sergey Grigorievich from the family A.A.V. and L. Vishnjakov"

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby Aguest » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:50 am

What exactly is this object? :: Is it some kind of "memorial plaque" created for a funeral? ::
What does the back of the object look like, could that help to figure out what it is? :::

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby AG2012 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:02 am

I think it's writing desk note holder.Depending on the base and size (stone) it could have been been used as a paperweight.
One cannot write on French polish antique furniture.Thing like this is needed.Again, size matters.
A keepsake from Vishnyakov family. The recipient was still alive at the time,no funeral.
And yes, we'd like to see the whole object.

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby Goldstein » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:35 am

Hi Aguest -

either a book cover (photo album) or as already mentioned a desk note pad.

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby Qrt.S » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:13 am

Whatever it is, It is a gift o living person. The text doesn't state "to the memory of..." but "a memory to..." There is a difference between the meaning the prepositions of and to.

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby Goldstein » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:50 am

Hi -

here a book cover:

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby Aguest » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:33 am

:: I understand now, thank you for help with the sentence structure and also the references to the other objects ::

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby HoriaTanase » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:38 am

Qrt.S wrote:Unfortunately the maker АШ. is unknown (at least to me). Maybe somebody else can identify the maker. However, the object is made in Moscow 1908-1917(26). The text states:

"A memory to dear Sergey Grigorievich from the family A.A.V. and L. Vishnjakov"


Thank a lot!

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby HoriaTanase » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:53 am

AG2012 wrote:I think it's writing desk note holder.Depending on the base and size (stone) it could have been been used as a paperweight.
One cannot write on French polish antique furniture.Thing like this is needed.Again, size matters.
A keepsake from Vishnyakov family. The recipient was still alive at the time,no funeral.
And yes, we'd like to see the whole object.


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The sizes are : 27cm/17cm

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Re: Silversmith 84 silver

Postby Adieu » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:59 am

It's a memento plaque or something that accompanies a larger gift.

The Russian text has a "parting gift" kind of feel.

The design is kind of strange, perhaps a gift from a rich provincial family to a neighbor/family friend teenager heading off to military academy or university in a big city?


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