Who is the maker CиK?

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Who is the maker CиK?

Postby Goldstein » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:31 am

Hi -

who could the maker be? PL #2876 = unknown master 1908...

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby dognose » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:42 am

Hi Goldstein,

That's a great item. Can you translate the inscription for us?

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby AG2012 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:24 am

Imperial Moscow trotting (Horse) Association.

Why is it attributed to Фабрика Ореста Курлюкова ?
Кубок «Первый приз Императорского Московского общества рысистого бега». Серебро. Москва. Фабрика Ореста Курлюкова, 1908-1917 гг

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby dognose » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:57 am

Thank you AG2012.

It was a popular sport in Moscow at the time:

Some idea of the hold trotting has taken in Moscow may be gauged from the fact that the Moscow club paid away £100,000 in prize money, and £13,000 for new records put up at the winter meeting of 1907—1908.

Source: The R.A.S. Annual - 1909

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby Goldstein » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:05 am

Hi Trev -

here the translation:
«Первый приз Императорского Московского общества рысистого бега»
"The first prize of the Imperial Moscow Society of Race Running"

Hi AG2012 -

I do not understand what you mean. Maybe you can help me.

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby dognose » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:11 am

Hi Goldstein,

Many thanks.

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby AG2012 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:45 am

Cannot link to commercial sites. Will quote Baltic Auction Group.
Similar, I suppose not the same item.
Лот 0354 Кубок «Первый приз Императорского Московского общества рысистого бега».
Кубок «Первый приз Императорского Московского общества рысистого бега». Серебро. Москва. Фабрика Ореста Курлюкова, 1908-1917 гг. Размер: высота 18 см. 

``First prize etc. was not shown in the images, just the name of trotting association under the rim. 1st prize is engraved bellow.

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby Goldstein » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:01 am

Hi AG2012 -

now I understand! It is funny that they attribute it to O. Kurljukov - must be experts!

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby AG2012 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:16 am

СиК

Letter ``и`` in smaller font is unusual for middle name. More likely it stands for ``and`` partnership or something like joint enterprise. But not mentioned in Skurlov either.
Will keep searching.

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby Goldstein » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:10 pm

Hi AG2012 -

this mark I have seen several times in the past - but the objects were just average and I had no interest.
I have a similar mark from Kiev - also unknown to me.

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source: private matchbox cover collection

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby Ubaranda » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:59 pm

The mark СиК belongs to Moscow trading house "Степанов и Красильников" (Stepanov and Krasil'nikov) known in 1909-1917.
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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby Goldstein » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:49 pm

Hi Ubaranda -

great news! Many thanks for that!
Do you have a source for that?

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby Ubaranda » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:57 am

Goldstein wrote:Do you have a source for that?
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Yes, of course.

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Re: Who is the maker CиK?

Postby Goldstein » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:13 am

Hi Ubaranda -

many thanks again!

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