Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

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Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby madej » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:41 pm

Please silversmith identify.Assay Makers is Aleksandr Timofeyewich Shevyakov
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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby madej » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:11 am

I know the hallmark is a little unreadable, but only that I have a photo:(

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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby Qrt.S » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:14 pm

Yes the maker's mark is not so clear but I assume it to be JA. I haven't seen "JA" with this font before. However, the same initials could not be used at the same time by two different masters. Therefore i guess it is Johan Allenius 1894-1908. The assayer is Aleksandr Timofeyevich Sheviakov in St Petersburg 1890-1913

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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby madej » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:41 pm

Thanks Qrt.S
So what we assume is Johan Allenius.
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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby Goldstein » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:59 am

Hi -

here is the mark:

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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby madej » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:18 am

Thanks Goldstein
Yes it is Johan Allenius
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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby madej » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:19 pm

Is it possible to raise objections that on the podstakannik is just that signature I posted? There are no signatures on the handle and "rim"

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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby Goldstein » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:02 pm

Hi madej -

your tea glass holer is OK!

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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby Qrt.S » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:51 am

Your podstakannik is genuine, no problem with that.
When we are approaching the turn of the century and passing it, it wasn't anymore mandatory to punch marks all on all detachable parts. Some continued to punch the marks all over others didn't.

Nonetheless, you have a problem with the missing glass. Unfortunately the Russian standard is exceptional and therefore finding a suitable thin glass is most difficult. Try flea markets and recycling centers and you might find one. The Soviets kept the same standard c. 65mm in diameter, so if you are lucky.... The glass must not be tight in the holder in any case and not either a crystal glass (it is too thick). In that case it may break when poring hot water in it because the heat will expand it and it might crack. In order to avoid that an old habit is to keep the teaspoon in the glass when poring. Its metal will absorb some of the warmth. But you probably knew all this already....:-))))))

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Re: Silver smith id. Tea glass holder

Postby madej » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:57 pm

Thanks Guys :)


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