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Recently acquired a bowl and has the combine city & standard mark and the maker's mark (HA) but without Assayer's mark. Just wondering if the bowl genuine or fake?

It is hardly a fake and there is an assaying mark, no doubts about that. The 84 with St Petersburg's town crest in an oval frame is the assaying mark used 1882-1899. The maker is , however, more difficult. It could be Aleksey Nasedkin 1883-1905 but I'm not sure because the mark is unclear and could as well be seen as ДΗ (latin DN). Who that may be I don't know, sorry.

Thanks for the reply, I was abit skeptical as I know there are alot of fakes on the market plus from what I gather they were really strict with the hallmarking and must consist of a Maker's, Assayer's, Silver Standard and a Town Mark.

And I didn't think it is an assayer's mark but a marker's mark stamp twice, as the year is missing from the mark.

Maybe you should read this if you are interested in imperial Russian silver: http://www.925-1000.com/Frussia.html

I did and if I am not mistaken the assayer's mark will have the initials of the assay's master with the year below, which is missing in this case.

Sorry, but you are mistaking now, You didn't read everything. This slipped your eyes: http://www.925-1000.com/Frussia_assay_variations.html. This particular assaying mark is called "dvoinik" i.e. double because it has only two elements, onlyt the fineness and town crest.

Ah, thanks for pointing it out, didn't know how I missed that part. Upon further research this may be mark of HOLMSTROM, August Wilhelm a senior member of Fabergé's workshop.

http://www.silvercollection.it/faberge.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Wi ... str%C3%B6m

Please forget Holmström. It is no circumstances him. Holmström was an outstanding goldsmith working for Fabergé only. The quality of your bowl is not good enough.

How about his son Albert Holmström, they use the same mark.

Sorry, not in a million years

thanks for your 'expertise'

kevalie wrote:thanks for your 'expertise'

You sneer in vain.

In St. Petersburg there was some silversmiths worked with A.N. initials ( Cyrillics - А.Н.).
For example: for Trading House "Morozov" worked silversmith A.N.:

Hi.

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