Russian/Polish Marking on Goblet

[dognose]

Hi,

I've been sent these images by a friend who is seeking information on this goblet:















Presumably this item has been remarked at a later date, but can anyone expand on this.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Trev.

[Aguest]

I must admit I have come across a few objects that seem to have a combination of Russian and Polish hallmarks.
And one object seemed to have marks from Russia, Poland, and the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
I guess there is some sort of re-marking going on between these three elements.

Sorry I do not know the specific maker here, but it certainly does seem to have both Polish (small female heads) and Russian Assay Marks.

[huszas76]

Dear Trev!
The maker is Antoni Riedel in Warsawa between ca. 1870-1907.
The assay master is Josef Sosikowski.
The remarking of Poland is from 1963-1986, content 875‰.
Best regards!
Krisztián

[dognose]

Thank you both for your thoughts, they are very much appreciated.

Trev.

[Qrt.S]

A little bit more information. The Russian assayer OC is the abbreviation of the mentioned assayer but his Polish version i.e. Osip Sosikovsky 1869-1896 in Warsaw. What is interesting is that there is a mark in a round frame left of the hallmark with number 2. That is an additional warrant mark struck beside the primary hallmark and used on articles of mixed metals. What might be "mixed metals" on this object?

[dognose]

Hi Qrt.S,

Many thanks for the further information. I'll make some inquiries regarding the make-up of the metal.

Trev.

[Dad]

Hi

I don't think that it is mix of metals, so usually mark when not alone part, but several parts in item.
I believe that this goblet consists of 2 parts which are connected by the screw. Leg + bowl. Goblet-transformer for travel?
Or I am not right? ))

Best Reg...

[dognose]

I've just heard back that there are no signs of mixed metal manufacture and it is indeed made up of three parts screwed together, something I was not made aware off else I would have mentioned it earlier.





Thanks for the very valuable information.

Trev.

[Dad]

Correct surname of the assay master is Sosnkowski.

[dognose]

Once again, thank you Dad.

Trev.

[Qrt.S]

It could indeed be that the questioned mark's meaning is to tell that the goblet consists of several parts. So be it.

#Dad
Mind my saying and just for the records, it seems that nobody knows the "correct" name of the questioned assayer. He used at least three different marks in Warsaw:

1852-1853
1860-X
1862-1867? IS with the names Sosenkovskij/Sosiovskij/Sosnovskij, Josef Stanislavovitch

1862-1869 IC as Sosikovskij, Ios

1869-1896 O.C as Sosikovskij Osip...

In addition, differing information is different sources. I don't think he has a "correct" name ;-))))))) On the other hand, it is not a big deal. We know who he is irrespective of the name variations. He is not the only one who has variations in their names.

[Dad]

Qrt.S,

In all Polish resources - Jozef Sosnkowski.
In documents of Mining Department of Ministry Finance use the russified name Osip (Josef) Sosnkowski (1822 w.b.) (Осип Станиславович Соснковский)
In Warsaw Guide 1869 - Jozef Sosnkowski (pic.)

[Qrt.S]

I'm not arguing with you. What I'm saying is that he has many aliases as you mention yourself. No problem.

[madej]

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