Maker``ИЗ`` in Moscow 1979, assayer AK ?

[AG2012]

Beaker on a beaded circular foot; 1879 — maker ИЗ ? in Moscow.Assayer not consistent with any AK at the time.
(Inscription engraved 8 years later;оть СТ. ун.Оф.П.D. Леутина .Л.И.И.З.М.н. 18.III 1887)
Thank you

[AG2012]

1879

[Zolotnik]

Hi AG2012 -

as far as I know there were 2 assay masters AK in Moscow:

AK - Kowalskij, Andrej Antonowitsch 1852-1862
AK - Name not jet known 1879-1883

ИЗ Maker - Sacharov, Iwan Wasilewitsch 1856-1896

Regards
Zolotnik

[Zolotnik]

Hi AG2012 -

I read " Леушина"...Leuschina...

Regards
Zolotnik

[Zolotnik]

Hi AG2012 -

found in my collection an other stopka from Sacharov - and again an Import mark (Austria-Hungary)






Regards
Zolotnik

[AG2012]

Thanks a lot.Right, Леушина!Your beaker is a beauty;Whenever I see engraved items like this I try to imagine silversmiths sitting in not very comfortable workshops and engraving.Another beauty of Russian silver;much handwork and no machinery even at the turn of 19th century - rare to compare with - probably provincial Austria- Hungary and Germany.The industry stamping killed the craftsmanship.

[Qrt.S]

Mind my asking but there is a Latin D among Cyrillic letters, how come?

To my understanding Леушина is a female name, or?

[AG2012]

Handwritten Д =
Yes,female family name - I think most of them end with ``a``(female ending) which makes sense;something like Icelandic family names:the daughter of Erik Jonsson cannot be Anna Jonsson but Anna Eriksdottir.Troubles with immigration offices sometimes,though - trafficking children: one family and everyone has different family name :-)
Thanks for your kind interest.

[Qrt.S]

Ok, thanks, handwritten Russian is not my strongest side ;-)))

[Zolotnik]

Hi all -

for our "experts"....

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd33 ... 040938.jpg

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Zolotnik

[Zolotnik]

Hi AG1220 -

[quoteRe: Maker``ИЗ`` in Moscow 1979, assayer AK ?[/quote]

I think we all get too old for this....

Retard (sorry, should read Regards)

Zolotnik

[AG2012]

There is no need to insult people for a typo - it was too obvious it could not be 1979,right? (Lapsus calami).I suppose you think it is funny to mistake ``retard`` and ``regards``.Poor you!Old men should disengage from objects, not people, yet keep adding toys;buy yourself another Russian cigarette case.This place is full of frustrated individuals.I have never competed for an alpha male here - you may keep the position for some time in the future fighting the biology as long as you can.Good luck.

[Zolotnik]

Hi AG2012 -
sorry if I insulted you! Was just making a joke ...and I wrote "we"...

No humor - only frust.

Regards
Zolotnik