The beaker

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AG2012
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The beaker

Postby AG2012 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:38 am

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Russian Church in exile - engraved in 1938: Voznesensky Cathedral chorus. Not ``a story`` for sure; I know exactly where they sang and where was the church, how it was built and a huge dispute among divided Russian church in exile and church in Soviet Russia at the time.
But marks are curious and engraving does not look like mid 19th century; the inscription is obviously 1938 but what about the rest? Reminiscence of the town one of them came from - Arkhangelsk?
``СГ`` looks re- struck. What are those two marks arrowed? One is engraved, though.
What might be the strange history of this beaker?

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Re: The beaker

Postby Dad » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:44 am

Hi.

About last punch (L) look here : viewtopic.php?f=46&t=24047&p=57893&hilit=riga#p57893

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Re: The beaker

Postby Qrt.S » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:47 am

AC could be the assayer Aggei Grigorjevitsh Svechin. However, my sources tell me that his working period was 1862-1875 but here the mark seems to show 1853? (maybe I'm mistaking...). The maker СГ is unknown to name. Anyway, the beaker is remarked in Latvia 1922-1940. The lower mark (established in 1920s) pointed with an arrow is upside down. It is the Latin letter L. It is the independent republic Latvia's minimum standard mark for the purity of 875/1000 required by the law. The purity 875 is also seen in the "Milda mark". This L-mark was punched on alternatively unmarked silver objects or on objects sold at an official auction.

This same procedure with marking minimum standards was also applied in Russia/Soviet Union between 1908-1927. However, the letter L is in that case a Cyrillic L and the shield a bit different.

What the upper left mark is, I have no idea. Maybe it is only a part of the engraved decoration.

Have a nice day

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Re: The beaker

Postby AG2012 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:42 pm

Thanks a lot dear friends;Latvian ``L`` was unknown to me.Incised mark could be the engraver.There is still inconsistency with the assayer and the year 1853 (Aggei Grigorjevitsh Svechin 1862-1875).
By the way,the church chorus still exists and the beaker will be given back to them as a gift;must calculate one of the holidays in the Eastern Church.Those things should not hang around in flea markets.
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