Centerpiece hallmarks identification

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tentate
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Centerpiece hallmarks identification

Postby tentate » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:46 pm

Hi everybody!, I'm new in the forum.
I didn't find information about this silversmith hallmark, thanks if anybody happens to know

Luis



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tentate
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Re: Centerpiece hallmarks identification

Postby tentate » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:55 pm

[quote="tentate"]Hi everybody!, I'm new in the forum.
I didn't find information about this silversmith hallmark, thanks if anybody happens to know

Luis



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Juke
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Re: Centerpiece hallmarks identification

Postby Juke » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:18 am

Hi!

Please clean all the marks, especially the kokosnik mark and the makers mark beside it. Then take new closeup pictures for better idenfication.

Regards,
Juke

Zolotnik
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Re: Centerpiece hallmarks identification

Postby Zolotnik » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:42 am

Hi tentate -

your centerpiece looks like a later "upgraded" European silver object (Mod. Nr. 346).

Regards
Zolotnik

Nero5
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Re: Centerpiece hallmarks identification

Postby Nero5 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:05 am

In the first picture the mark seems to me mirrored and stamped on previous mark.

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Re: Centerpiece hallmarks identification

Postby Dad » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:13 pm

Hi, All.

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Here it is written: "В.Другов и Ко" ("V.Drugov and Co")

From history of Faberge firm:
"The special role in work of the Odessa's and Kiev's branches belongs to jeweler Vladimir Nikolaevich Drugov. In 1903 he opens together with Victor-Anlders Lundel the factory of firm Faberge in Odessa, supervises the Kiev branch of firm in 1906-1911. Also Drugov continued to supervise own jewelry store in Odessa "V. Drugov & Co" (Deribasovskaya street, 21). Had also own shop in Kiev. Such in firm Faberge met seldom.
In Paris Drugov contacted to Evgenie Faberge, who in 1922 together with brother Alexander, has founded the firm «Faberge and Co» for sale business by the former products of parental firm. After 1945 Evgenie has organized manufacture replicas of old patterns of Faberge's subjects. Vladimir Drugov has been involved In this work."

If the owner of a subject will cleans punches (mark of 4-th Moscow artel + state's marks) and will show to us it is possible to discuss further. )))

Best Reg..

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Re: Centerpiece hallmarks identification

Postby Dad » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:16 pm

Sorry : "Here it is written: "В.Друговъ и Ко" ("V.Drugov and Co")" )))

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Re: Centerpiece hallmarks identification

Postby Zolotnik » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:59 pm

Hi Dad -

a phantastic story as always! An ugly centerpiece made from several non fitting parts in different styles and marked/overmarked with a lot of punches - but all blurry. Last but not least the Model -or Patternnumber 346...I am impressed!
Here the marks of the 4th Moscow Artel ....which worked only in the traditional style!

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Regards
Zolotnik


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