Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

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Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Twofatslugs » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:14 pm

Hi! Hope you’re all doing well. While clearing out my grandmothers house, I came across a spoon that I thought looked relatively Russian in design. Turns out, it does seem to be Russian, but I’m really struggling to make out the second hallmark. If anyone has any ideas, they would be greatly appreciated. Design wise, it appears very similar to Gustav Klingert, but I’m 99% sure the hallmark is not a match.

Images below :)
https://imgur.com/a/jHSfTHT

Thanks!

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby dognose » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:17 pm

Hi,

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Twofatslugs » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:28 pm

Hi Trev,

Apologies! Hopefully these should work.

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Mart » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:55 am

Hello!
Moscow, 1899-1908.
At that time, several silversmiths with the initials "НЗ" worked here. The workshop of Nikolai Zverev (Николай Зверев) made products with enamel.

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Twofatslugs » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:42 am

Mart wrote:Hello!
Moscow, 1899-1908.
At that time, several silversmiths with the initials "НЗ" worked here. The workshop of Nikolai Zverev (Николай Зверев) made products with enamel.


Thanks so much for the information, very interesting! I was wondering if you know more about these kinds of spoons. I’m unsure if this was originally gilt, but the gold colour has disappeared. I can see very faint bits of gold in the crevices hence the question.

Thanks again!

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Qrt.S » Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:22 am

Just for the records: It is good to know that according to the Russian law the same maker's mark could not be used by several masters at the same time in the same place. Separating factors must be used in the punch. However, there are similar marks (e.g. initials) used in the same town, but the separating factor is the working period.

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Mart » Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:32 am

Twofatslugs, this type of spoons in catalogs is called "Russian style". They were dessert, tablespoons, teaspoons. If you see the remains of gilding, then it means it was there. The presence of gilding on spoons is not uncommon.

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Juke* » Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:58 am

Yours is a tea leaves serving spoon.

In addition to Mart's list there were coffee spoons, mocha spoons, jam spoons, salt spoons etc. The Russians loved the different types of spoons.

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Silverstone » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:40 pm

Two for Twofatslugs,

here are two more enamel objects by Nikolai Zeverev (Николай Зверев):
a)
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b)
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As an encore - sugartongs by Nikolai Zverev:
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Regards
Silverstone

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby Twofatslugs » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:34 am

Thanks so much everyone for all the information, it’s been incredibly interesting reading and learning about something that has just been kept in a drawer for tens of years. I’d like to see if I can clean up the black on the back of the spoon as the gilt appears to be coming through after some very light cleaning, but I’ll have to do a lot of research prior so I don’t damage the enamel.

Thanks again everyone, what a fantastic forum!

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Re: Help with a hallmark on an enamel spoon

Postby dognose » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:34 am

Hi,

If you post a question regarding maintenance in this section of the forum:

Silver Care / Techniques

I'm sure you'll receive some sound advice.

Trev.


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