Some French Advertisements and Information
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CHARLES QUANTIN
Niort
An example of the mark of Charles Quantin:
Member vika wrote:
Charles Quantin, so-called Quantin the father, was a french jeweller in Niort. He started working in 1849. After getting married with Marie Ursule Aubineau, they founded the society Quantin-Aubineau in 1858.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32358&p=81358
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Niort
An example of the mark of Charles Quantin:
Member vika wrote:
Charles Quantin, so-called Quantin the father, was a french jeweller in Niort. He started working in 1849. After getting married with Marie Ursule Aubineau, they founded the society Quantin-Aubineau in 1858.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32358&p=81358
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CHARLES-FRANÇOIS LAUTRAN
Pont au Change, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Charles-François Lautran:
Member JayT wrote:
Fork in the Filet or Thread pattern was made in Paris between 1 October 1768 and 18 November 1774, as indicated by the crowned A charge mark. The date letter is incomplete, but should be either a crowned E, F, G, H, I, K or L. The date letter and charge mark are stamped head to head, so you’d have to turn the fork in the opposite orientation to what you have shown to try to decipher the date letter. You also have a discharge mark of helmeted youth facing right, in use 1768-1774. Thus all marks are in concordance.
The maker is Charles-François Lautran, who first registered his mark of a crowned fleur-de-lys, two grains, initials CFL and as symbol a mitre on 29 March 1762. In 1766 he was listed as working on the Pont au Change, and he died 21 June 1777.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54890
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Pont au Change, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Charles-François Lautran:
Member JayT wrote:
Fork in the Filet or Thread pattern was made in Paris between 1 October 1768 and 18 November 1774, as indicated by the crowned A charge mark. The date letter is incomplete, but should be either a crowned E, F, G, H, I, K or L. The date letter and charge mark are stamped head to head, so you’d have to turn the fork in the opposite orientation to what you have shown to try to decipher the date letter. You also have a discharge mark of helmeted youth facing right, in use 1768-1774. Thus all marks are in concordance.
The maker is Charles-François Lautran, who first registered his mark of a crowned fleur-de-lys, two grains, initials CFL and as symbol a mitre on 29 March 1762. In 1766 he was listed as working on the Pont au Change, and he died 21 June 1777.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54890
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Re: Some French Advertisements and Information
HENRI PAQUIER
90 Boulevard de Magenta, Paris
Henri Paquier - Paris - 1908
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90 Boulevard de Magenta, Paris
Henri Paquier - Paris - 1908
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PIERRE-NICOLAS SOMMÉ
rue St. Eloi, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Pierre-Nicolas Sommé :
PN/S
Member JayT wrote:
Your sugar sifting spoon was made in Paris by Pierre-Nicolas Sommé, using his second mark of a hand holding a bunch of laurel. Sommé apprenticed in 1747 to Edme-Thomas Laurent, and later transferred to Eloy Guérin. He first registered a mark on 17 July 1760. He worked at rue St-Eloi until 1793, and retired to Versailles, where he was still alive in 1806. He had a long career, and a long life.
The other marks on your spoon are: the crowned A charge mark, in use from 1774-1780, the crowned O date mark for 1777, two other marks which presumably are a discharge mark and perhaps an export mark, although they are too blurry on my monitor to read properly.
The pattern of your spoon is called Filet or Thread. It is a well executed example, with a chased-in double thread, and a reinforcement around the bowl of the spoon. The biggest collector of sugar sifting spoons, Bilgi Kenber, has published a typology of piercing styles, should you wish to pursue further. There is an engraved personalization of a marriage coat of arms under what looks like the coronet of a marquis on the spatula.
An example of a sugar sifting spoon by Sommé is in the Puiforcat collection at the Louvre.
I see the dog head discharge mark in use from 1774-1780. Therefore all the marks (maker, charge, date, discharge) are in concordance.
The fifth mark on the spoon handle is still not clear to me. Perhaps a recount mark? I’m out of guesses on that one. The other 4 are as I described earlier: maker, charge, date, discharge.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54238
And: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34542&p=177367&hil ... A9#p177367
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rue St. Eloi, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Pierre-Nicolas Sommé :
PN/S
Member JayT wrote:
Your sugar sifting spoon was made in Paris by Pierre-Nicolas Sommé, using his second mark of a hand holding a bunch of laurel. Sommé apprenticed in 1747 to Edme-Thomas Laurent, and later transferred to Eloy Guérin. He first registered a mark on 17 July 1760. He worked at rue St-Eloi until 1793, and retired to Versailles, where he was still alive in 1806. He had a long career, and a long life.
The other marks on your spoon are: the crowned A charge mark, in use from 1774-1780, the crowned O date mark for 1777, two other marks which presumably are a discharge mark and perhaps an export mark, although they are too blurry on my monitor to read properly.
The pattern of your spoon is called Filet or Thread. It is a well executed example, with a chased-in double thread, and a reinforcement around the bowl of the spoon. The biggest collector of sugar sifting spoons, Bilgi Kenber, has published a typology of piercing styles, should you wish to pursue further. There is an engraved personalization of a marriage coat of arms under what looks like the coronet of a marquis on the spatula.
An example of a sugar sifting spoon by Sommé is in the Puiforcat collection at the Louvre.
I see the dog head discharge mark in use from 1774-1780. Therefore all the marks (maker, charge, date, discharge) are in concordance.
The fifth mark on the spoon handle is still not clear to me. Perhaps a recount mark? I’m out of guesses on that one. The other 4 are as I described earlier: maker, charge, date, discharge.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54238
And: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34542&p=177367&hil ... A9#p177367
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Re: Some French Advertisements and Information
GERARD SANDOZ
Paris
A tea-set by Gérard Sandoz:
This image is from 1931.
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Paris
A tea-set by Gérard Sandoz:
This image is from 1931.
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Re: Some French Advertisements and Information
G. POTIEZ
5, Rue des Capucines, Paris
Potiez - Paris - 1920
Potiez - Paris - 1924
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5, Rue des Capucines, Paris
Potiez - Paris - 1920
Potiez - Paris - 1924
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J. AURICOSTE
10 Rue la Boétie, Paris
J. Auricoste - Paris - 1908
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10 Rue la Boétie, Paris
J. Auricoste - Paris - 1908
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CHARLES-AUGUSTE BUTTNER
Strasbourg
An example of the work and mark of Charles-Auguste Buttner:
Member AG2012 wrote:
Charles-Auguste Buttner (1809-1866), active from 1834 to 1866
Member JayT wrote:
Buttner was from Strasbourg. This spoon in the Filet or Thread pattern was made after 1838 of 800 standard silver.
Member AG2012 wrote:
Charles-Auguste is the son of Jean-Louis Buttner (1769-1840), a silversmith active in Strasbourg from 1786 to 1840, who after 1797 used the stork punch, a reminder of his establishment in the house of 'Deux Cigognes', located 14 rue des Orfèvres.
Member JayT wrote:
Yes, the Buttners were one of those Strasbourg dynasties of silver makers and jewellers. Charles-Auguste’s grandfather was Johann Frederich the elder, and he was the nephew of Johann Frederich the younger, and Johann-Jacob.
See: Deux siècles d’orfevrerie à Strasbourg, Strasbourg, Les Musées de Strasbourg, 2004.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=57060
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Strasbourg
An example of the work and mark of Charles-Auguste Buttner:
Member AG2012 wrote:
Charles-Auguste Buttner (1809-1866), active from 1834 to 1866
Member JayT wrote:
Buttner was from Strasbourg. This spoon in the Filet or Thread pattern was made after 1838 of 800 standard silver.
Member AG2012 wrote:
Charles-Auguste is the son of Jean-Louis Buttner (1769-1840), a silversmith active in Strasbourg from 1786 to 1840, who after 1797 used the stork punch, a reminder of his establishment in the house of 'Deux Cigognes', located 14 rue des Orfèvres.
Member JayT wrote:
Yes, the Buttners were one of those Strasbourg dynasties of silver makers and jewellers. Charles-Auguste’s grandfather was Johann Frederich the elder, and he was the nephew of Johann Frederich the younger, and Johann-Jacob.
See: Deux siècles d’orfevrerie à Strasbourg, Strasbourg, Les Musées de Strasbourg, 2004.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=57060
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EDOUARD DESIRE LEMAYEUR
Lille
An example of the work and mark of Edouard Desire Lemayeur:
EL
Member blakstone wrote:
French, from the city of Lille (dept. Nord), first standard: 950/1000
Edouard Desire Lemayeur
Born: 17 Mar 1823, son of Jean Baptiste Joseph Lemayeur & Catherine Joseph Bigo
Mark Registered: 7 Aug 1848
Married: 2 Aug 1859, to Eugenie Pauline Sophie Gahide
Died: 27 Dec 1890
Ref: Guy Messiant & Christian Pfister, Repertoire des Poincons du Nord aux XIXeme Siecle (Dunkirk: Westhoek, 1980), p. 42
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=57159
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Lille
An example of the work and mark of Edouard Desire Lemayeur:
EL
Member blakstone wrote:
French, from the city of Lille (dept. Nord), first standard: 950/1000
Edouard Desire Lemayeur
Born: 17 Mar 1823, son of Jean Baptiste Joseph Lemayeur & Catherine Joseph Bigo
Mark Registered: 7 Aug 1848
Married: 2 Aug 1859, to Eugenie Pauline Sophie Gahide
Died: 27 Dec 1890
Ref: Guy Messiant & Christian Pfister, Repertoire des Poincons du Nord aux XIXeme Siecle (Dunkirk: Westhoek, 1980), p. 42
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=57159
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PIERRE LECLAIRE
Orléans
An example of the work and mark of Pierre Leclaire:
PL
Member blakstone wrote:
Pierre Leclaire
Born: ca. 1765, Reims, Marne, son of Alexis Leclaire & Marguerite Geoffroy
Married: Alexandrine Moulin
Died: 27 Apr 1846, Orléans, Loiret
listed in Orléans at 92 rue Royale 1810-1818, at 91 rue Royale 1819-1828 and 108 rue Bannier at his death.
ref: Nicole Verlet-Réaubourg, Stéphanie Saulnier, et al.,Orfèvres d'Orléans (Paris: Somogy, 2003), p. 135
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=56620&p=182892
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Orléans
An example of the work and mark of Pierre Leclaire:
PL
Member blakstone wrote:
Pierre Leclaire
Born: ca. 1765, Reims, Marne, son of Alexis Leclaire & Marguerite Geoffroy
Married: Alexandrine Moulin
Died: 27 Apr 1846, Orléans, Loiret
listed in Orléans at 92 rue Royale 1810-1818, at 91 rue Royale 1819-1828 and 108 rue Bannier at his death.
ref: Nicole Verlet-Réaubourg, Stéphanie Saulnier, et al.,Orfèvres d'Orléans (Paris: Somogy, 2003), p. 135
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=56620&p=182892
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VICTOIRE-JOSÉPHINE GODOT
380 rue St-Denis, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Victoire-Joséphine Godot:
G/Fe.R
Member JayT wrote:
Your spoon was made by Victoire-Joséphine Godot, wife of Jean-Joseph Rivet. Godot worked in Paris as a flatware maker (orfèvre-cuilleriste) at 380 rue St-Denis. She registered this mark G.Fe.R., standing for Godot, wife of Rivet, symbol a salt shovel (pelle à sel) on 5 July 1832, erased 6 July 1836. This is the first time I’ve seen a woman who marked as the wife - not the widow - of a living silversmith.
See Arminjon, v. I, no. 01317, p. 155.
Her husband, Jean-Joseph Rivet was the successor of Louis-François Blacet. Rivet registered his mark in 1815-16, erased 5 July, 1832, the date his wife registered her mark. It is not clear whether he retired or was somehow incapacitated when his wife took over the business. His symbol was also a salt shovel, as was that of Blacet, but oriented in the opposite direction to Godot’s symbol.
See Arminjon, v. I, no. 01885, p. 203 and no. 02339, p. 241.
Member blakstone wrote:
Victoire-Joséphine Godot died in Paris on 19 Jan 1839, age 46 (thus born ca. 1793) at 15 rue de Francs Bourgeois (then the 7th, now the 4th arrondissement). She is again listed on her death record as the wife, not the widow, of Jean-Joseph Rivet. I can find no record of his death, and it seems very likely that he was either incapacitated or absconded. I did find the record of one child of the couple, Jean Achille Rivet, born on 15 Jun 1821 at the rue St. Denis address, but again I did not find any record of the child's fate.
The Rivet/Godot business was evidently assumed by François Laslier, who registered a mark with the same symbol (a salt shovel) at the same address (380 rue St. Denis) on 17 Jul 1836, which was renewed on 11 Feb 1848 and cancelled on 4 Mar 1858. [Arminjon, v. I, no. 01159, p. 142]
Member JayT wrote:
The timing of her registration on the same day her husband Rivet’s mark was erased would suggest that this was a planned transition. Therefore Rivet was more likely incapacitated than a bounder.
Interesting to think Laslier might have been Godot’s successor. His symbol of a salt shovel and the date of his registration are good indicators. Many, many makers worked at that address on rue St-Denis, so the address is not definitive in itself. As a side note, Laslier was an excellent silversmith whose successor, Puiforcat, kept some of Laslier’s models in his catalogue.
Member blakstone wrote:
Note that the 1839 Almanach général des commerçants de Paris et des départements confirms the Laslier succession, under the listings for orfévres-cuilleristes: “Laslier, succ. de Rivet, fab. de couverts, envoie en province, r. St. Denis 380, pass. Lemoine 38” That the name Rivet was still used seems to support the theory that he was indeed somehow incapacitated.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=56249&hilit=godot
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380 rue St-Denis, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Victoire-Joséphine Godot:
G/Fe.R
Member JayT wrote:
Your spoon was made by Victoire-Joséphine Godot, wife of Jean-Joseph Rivet. Godot worked in Paris as a flatware maker (orfèvre-cuilleriste) at 380 rue St-Denis. She registered this mark G.Fe.R., standing for Godot, wife of Rivet, symbol a salt shovel (pelle à sel) on 5 July 1832, erased 6 July 1836. This is the first time I’ve seen a woman who marked as the wife - not the widow - of a living silversmith.
See Arminjon, v. I, no. 01317, p. 155.
Her husband, Jean-Joseph Rivet was the successor of Louis-François Blacet. Rivet registered his mark in 1815-16, erased 5 July, 1832, the date his wife registered her mark. It is not clear whether he retired or was somehow incapacitated when his wife took over the business. His symbol was also a salt shovel, as was that of Blacet, but oriented in the opposite direction to Godot’s symbol.
See Arminjon, v. I, no. 01885, p. 203 and no. 02339, p. 241.
Member blakstone wrote:
Victoire-Joséphine Godot died in Paris on 19 Jan 1839, age 46 (thus born ca. 1793) at 15 rue de Francs Bourgeois (then the 7th, now the 4th arrondissement). She is again listed on her death record as the wife, not the widow, of Jean-Joseph Rivet. I can find no record of his death, and it seems very likely that he was either incapacitated or absconded. I did find the record of one child of the couple, Jean Achille Rivet, born on 15 Jun 1821 at the rue St. Denis address, but again I did not find any record of the child's fate.
The Rivet/Godot business was evidently assumed by François Laslier, who registered a mark with the same symbol (a salt shovel) at the same address (380 rue St. Denis) on 17 Jul 1836, which was renewed on 11 Feb 1848 and cancelled on 4 Mar 1858. [Arminjon, v. I, no. 01159, p. 142]
Member JayT wrote:
The timing of her registration on the same day her husband Rivet’s mark was erased would suggest that this was a planned transition. Therefore Rivet was more likely incapacitated than a bounder.
Interesting to think Laslier might have been Godot’s successor. His symbol of a salt shovel and the date of his registration are good indicators. Many, many makers worked at that address on rue St-Denis, so the address is not definitive in itself. As a side note, Laslier was an excellent silversmith whose successor, Puiforcat, kept some of Laslier’s models in his catalogue.
Member blakstone wrote:
Note that the 1839 Almanach général des commerçants de Paris et des départements confirms the Laslier succession, under the listings for orfévres-cuilleristes: “Laslier, succ. de Rivet, fab. de couverts, envoie en province, r. St. Denis 380, pass. Lemoine 38” That the name Rivet was still used seems to support the theory that he was indeed somehow incapacitated.
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=56249&hilit=godot
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CHARLES ANTOINE AMAND LENGLET
32 rue Bourg l’Abbe, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Charles Antoine Amand Lenglet:
CA/L
Member blakstone wrote: Charles Antoine Amand Lenglet:
Charles Antoine Amand Lenglet
Born: 24 Feb 1791, Levergies, Aisne, son of Romain Honore Lenglet & Marie Anne Beatrice Malazieux
Married: Anne Robert
Died: 23 Oct 1855, Paris
Mark: CAL with a lion and star
1st mark: registered 25 Oct 1823, 32 rue Bourg l’Abbe; cancelled 6 Aug 1843
2nd mark: registered 8 Aug 1843, 32 rue Bourg l’Abbe; no cancellation date
Ref: Arminjon I, no. 00577
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=57398&p=186280
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32 rue Bourg l’Abbe, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Charles Antoine Amand Lenglet:
CA/L
Member blakstone wrote: Charles Antoine Amand Lenglet:
Charles Antoine Amand Lenglet
Born: 24 Feb 1791, Levergies, Aisne, son of Romain Honore Lenglet & Marie Anne Beatrice Malazieux
Married: Anne Robert
Died: 23 Oct 1855, Paris
Mark: CAL with a lion and star
1st mark: registered 25 Oct 1823, 32 rue Bourg l’Abbe; cancelled 6 Aug 1843
2nd mark: registered 8 Aug 1843, 32 rue Bourg l’Abbe; no cancellation date
Ref: Arminjon I, no. 00577
See: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=57398&p=186280
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EDOUARD ALGIER
78 rue du Temple, Paris
An example of the mark of Edouard Algier:
EA
E - un masque - A
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78 rue du Temple, Paris
An example of the mark of Edouard Algier:
EA
E - un masque - A
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YTASSE ET FOURNERET
17 rue Réaumur, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Ytasse & Fourneret of Paris:
Another example of their mark:
The business of Prosper Ytasse and Edouard Fourneret was working 1897-1904.
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17 rue Réaumur, Paris
An example of the work and mark of Ytasse & Fourneret of Paris:
Another example of their mark:
The business of Prosper Ytasse and Edouard Fourneret was working 1897-1904.
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JEAN-ANTOINE HERVIER
Paris
An example of the mark of Jean-Antoine Hervier:
JAH
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Paris
An example of the mark of Jean-Antoine Hervier:
JAH
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AUGUSTE-NAPOLÉON DE BLUZE
Boulevard des Italiens 38, Paris
De Bluze - Paris - 1908
See: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34542&p=116951&hilit=bluze#p116951
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Boulevard des Italiens 38, Paris
De Bluze - Paris - 1908
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SOCIÉTÉ DES ORFÈVRES DU MARAIS
Paris
An example of the mark of The Société des Orfèvres du Marais:
Ste OM
Member Zilver2 wrote:
This mark SteOM belongs to the "Société d'Orfèvrerie du Marais", prédécessor of the actual society at 1 rue Robert et Sonia Delaunay, 75011 Paris.
Orfèvrerie du Marais (Succ.), 30 rue des Gravilliers, 75003 Paris is the latest goldsmith in this line.
Member JayT wrote:
The Société des Orfèvres du Marais was established on 1 January 1963, filed for bankruptcy in 2015, and closed definitively on 4 January 2018. The company was originally located in the area of Paris called Le Marais, or marsh, drained in the 17thC. Thus reeds as a symbol for the company is an appropriate mnemonic for Le Marais.
See: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=54845
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Paris
An example of the mark of The Société des Orfèvres du Marais:
Ste OM
Member Zilver2 wrote:
This mark SteOM belongs to the "Société d'Orfèvrerie du Marais", prédécessor of the actual society at 1 rue Robert et Sonia Delaunay, 75011 Paris.
Orfèvrerie du Marais (Succ.), 30 rue des Gravilliers, 75003 Paris is the latest goldsmith in this line.
Member JayT wrote:
The Société des Orfèvres du Marais was established on 1 January 1963, filed for bankruptcy in 2015, and closed definitively on 4 January 2018. The company was originally located in the area of Paris called Le Marais, or marsh, drained in the 17thC. Thus reeds as a symbol for the company is an appropriate mnemonic for Le Marais.
See: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=54845
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LE COUVERT FRANÇAIS
L'Isle-Adam, Val-d'Oise
An example of the work and mark of Le Couvert Français:
LCF
Member JayT wrote:
Your fork was made by Le Couvert Français, silverplate manufacturer. Their factory was located in L’Isle-Adam, France. They closed at the end of 1990, and had been in business for about 30 years.
See: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=57855
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L'Isle-Adam, Val-d'Oise
An example of the work and mark of Le Couvert Français:
LCF
Member JayT wrote:
Your fork was made by Le Couvert Français, silverplate manufacturer. Their factory was located in L’Isle-Adam, France. They closed at the end of 1990, and had been in business for about 30 years.
See: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=57855
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GROSS-LANGOULANT & Cie. - GROSS, POILEVÉ & Cie.
79 rue du Temple, Paris
Gross-Langoulant & Cie. - Gross, Poilevé & Cie. - Paris - c.1905
A - Coachman's Whip - G
Established in 1860 by Auguste Gross.
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79 rue du Temple, Paris
Gross-Langoulant & Cie. - Gross, Poilevé & Cie. - Paris - c.1905
A - Coachman's Whip - G
Established in 1860 by Auguste Gross.
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A. GUERMANN
11, rue Réaumur, Paris
An image of the mark of A. Guermann, known to have been working in Paris in the 1930's:
A - 5 - G
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11, rue Réaumur, Paris
An image of the mark of A. Guermann, known to have been working in Paris in the 1930's:
A - 5 - G
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