Anyone Identify This Piece?

[Wiggosilver]

Just wondering if anyone can identify what this piece is?

so can anyone tell me what the date of this peice is from the style of writing?
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Thanks.

[2209patrick]

Welcome to the forum.

How big is it?

Pat.

[silverport]

Hello

The object seems to me, to be a sliding decorative part of a leathern or textile memory bracelet?

In that time also every used "stone" and his colour included metaphysical »information« - which actually I don't know.

The script style is called: »English Script«

The engravings are: maybe JMW; I tend more, to “read”: MW

The (personal) individual memory date later is: 30 Aug. (18)93

Because after the first and second date cipher (30) isn't engraved a dot; so my clue is: Isn't out of German area (except, the starting point of the A for August is by incidence the dot for 30. and also the beginning of the letter A).

By the way, the 30 August (18)93 was a Wednesday.

Kind regards silverport

[Wiggosilver]

Welcome to the forum.

How big is it?

Pat.

Thanks.!

The piece is pretty small and is about the size of a one penny coin.

[Wiggosilver]

Hello

The object seems to me, to be a sliding decorative part of a leathern or textile memory bracelet?

In that time also every used "stone" and his colour included metaphysical »information« - which actually I don't know.

The script style is called: »English Script«

The engravings are: maybe JMW; I tend more, to “read”: MW

The (personal) individual memory date later is: 30 Aug. (18)93

Because after the first and second date cipher (30) isn't engraved a dot; so my clue is: Isn't out of German area (except, the starting point of the A for August is by incidence the dot for 30. and also the beginning of the letter A).

By the way, the 30 August (18)93 was a Wednesday.

Kind regards silverport

Thanks for the info very kind of you.

So you reckon the date of the piece is 1893 and was made in Germany?

Im not sure whether the MW is someones initials which they had put on there or whether this is the makers name?

[silverport]

Hello again

It isn't said by me, that it »is« from Germany - that is only one of hundreds of other possibilities; because it isn't marked!

I’ve studied before the form of engraving the date; with doubts of not being German — because the missing dot after the ciphers of 30.

Usual was in XIX century in some European countries, to have bracelets and other items, be plait (engl.), be braid (am.) from the hair of an befriend or beloved person.

If it is e.g. a German memory item - where are indeed the Crescent and the Crown marks; and the maker's mark of course too? My guess is: "maybe" German, because it is maybe from silver of lower fineness then 800-1,000, Crescent and Crown is then forbidden. From 1 January 1888 on minimum Silver fineness in Germany was 800-1,000, indicated by Crescent and Crown, and an indication of fineness in per mil, in arabic ciphers = 5 year before the engraved date.

The monogram and the date is a personal memory of some one, given from some one.

It seems to me that it is a totally personal gift - maybe made by the donator too?

I think, the maker wouldn't be found - it remains miraculous.

By the way, the first monogram letter could also be interpreted as a ligature of JMC.

Kind regards silverport

[Wiggosilver]

Hello again

It isn't said by me, that it »is« from Germany - that is only one of hundreds of other possibilities; because it isn't marked!

I’ve studied before the form of engraving the date; with doubts of not being German — because the missing dot after the ciphers of 30.

Usual was in XIX century in some European countries, to have bracelets and other items, be plait (engl.), be braid (am.) from the hair of an befriend or beloved person.

If it is e.g. a German memory item - where are indeed the Crescent and the Crown marks; and the maker's mark of course too? My guess is: "maybe" German, because it is maybe from silver of lower fineness then 800-1,000, Crescent and Crown is then forbidden. From 1 January 1888 on minimum Silver fineness in Germany was 800-1,000, indicated by Crescent and Crown, and an indication of fineness in per mil, in arabic ciphers = 5 year before the engraved date.

The monogram and the date is a personal memory of some one, given from some one.

It seems to me that it is a totally personal gift - maybe made by the donator too?

I think, the maker wouldn't be found - it remains miraculous.

By the way, the first monogram letter could also be interpreted as a ligature of JMC.

Kind regards silverport

Thanks for the info. =)

[Wiggosilver]

Hello again

It isn't said by me, that it »is« from Germany - that is only one of hundreds of other possibilities; because it isn't marked!

I’ve studied before the form of engraving the date; with doubts of not being German — because the missing dot after the ciphers of 30.

Usual was in XIX century in some European countries, to have bracelets and other items, be plait (engl.), be braid (am.) from the hair of an befriend or beloved person.

If it is e.g. a German memory item - where are indeed the Crescent and the Crown marks; and the maker's mark of course too? My guess is: "maybe" German, because it is maybe from silver of lower fineness then 800-1,000, Crescent and Crown is then forbidden. From 1 January 1888 on minimum Silver fineness in Germany was 800-1,000, indicated by Crescent and Crown, and an indication of fineness in per mil, in arabic ciphers = 5 year before the engraved date.

The monogram and the date is a personal memory of some one, given from some one.

It seems to me that it is a totally personal gift - maybe made by the donator too?

I think, the maker wouldn't be found - it remains miraculous.

By the way, the first monogram letter could also be interpreted as a ligature of JMC.

Kind regards silverport

Thanks for the info greatly appreciated . =)