Small and large ladels?

[myst_01]

Here are a couple of gravy spoons, or ladels, whichever name works. There are no marks on the pieces, there is only writing which says, community plate.




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[2209patrick]

Hello.

Community Plate is a trademark of Oneida Silversmiths, Sherrill, New York.

Pat.
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[myst_01]

I thank you for the response.

Is there a way to identify the pattern or does someone know what pattern the ladels are? I have tried to identify the patterns, and I assumed at one point that the maker was Oneida.
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[silverly]

I'm looking at a line drawing, but I think this is the 1917 pattern Adam.