Any help appreciated.
Thanks, Tom
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German Jugendstil Lilypad Pattern
German Jugendstil Lilypad Pattern
No luck tracking this lilypad (seerosenblatt) pattern down. I'm assuming it is German, but the only mark on the piece is 800, no maker, no crescent & crown.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks, Tom
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Any help appreciated.
Thanks, Tom
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silverport
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German Jugendstil Lilypad Pattern
Hello Tom
The pattern in question is produced by: Clarfeld & Springmeyer, Hemer in Westfalia. Time range: 1900 to 1910.
Clarfeld & Springmeyer’s product range in cutlery was available in both materials: Silver alloy and Plated.
Clarfeld & Springmeier’s Trade Mark I baptized «Ankermänner-Marke»; this mark is very often confused by imprecise antique dealers by «Gemini» mark of «J.A. Henckels Zwillingswerk» in Solingen.
Clarfeld & Springmeyer’s Trade Mark and Punch for both product ranges - Silver alloy and Plated (actually I don’t remember the frame): Two men in full front, all legs straddle and all arms up, holding between them one men high anchor and in their upright outside arms they hold hammers upright.
Actually I couldn’t place here an answer sounded by documents; because my archive is still in Spain. As I remember - by first view -, I’ve the same object in my collection. A 10” knife and to them related fork and spoon — but my ones are in «Plated». In this case I remember only imprecise my basic material: steel — because I’ve collected also for curiosity and prove some German cutlery made during the First World War. Slogan in WW1: «Gold gab ich für Eisen» - «Gold I donated for Iron». Bruckmann e.g. marked these objects: STAHL (STAHL = STEEL); prove: Magnet (also by «ZINNSTAHL» e.g. fork’s and spoons, produced between 1871 and 1914).
There was also a competitor from whom I remember imprecise to have seen a nearly similar cutlery pattern: «VDNS» «Vereinigte Deutsche Nickelwerke, Fleitmann & Witte, Schwerte/Ruhr».
«VDNS» Trade Mark and Punch were in that time of «Art Nouveau»: Frame a horizontal oval. Inside were two crossed sword. Inside circumscription by “V” (V = Vereinigte = United) left side centred, “D” (D = Deutsche = German) top centred, “N” (N = Nickelwerke = Nickel factory) right side centred, “S” (S = Schwerte [symbolized by: crossed swords = but nothing to do with Saxonia!]) base center.
«VDNS» product range included e.g. knife blade for fruit knifes in pure nickel marked: NICKEL
Dr. Fleitmann — a metallurgist — moved his premise from Iserlohn to Schwerte. Witte became companion and later one of «VDNS» shareholder’s.
Kind regards, silverport
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The pattern in question is produced by: Clarfeld & Springmeyer, Hemer in Westfalia. Time range: 1900 to 1910.
Clarfeld & Springmeyer’s product range in cutlery was available in both materials: Silver alloy and Plated.
Clarfeld & Springmeier’s Trade Mark I baptized «Ankermänner-Marke»; this mark is very often confused by imprecise antique dealers by «Gemini» mark of «J.A. Henckels Zwillingswerk» in Solingen.
Clarfeld & Springmeyer’s Trade Mark and Punch for both product ranges - Silver alloy and Plated (actually I don’t remember the frame): Two men in full front, all legs straddle and all arms up, holding between them one men high anchor and in their upright outside arms they hold hammers upright.
Actually I couldn’t place here an answer sounded by documents; because my archive is still in Spain. As I remember - by first view -, I’ve the same object in my collection. A 10” knife and to them related fork and spoon — but my ones are in «Plated». In this case I remember only imprecise my basic material: steel — because I’ve collected also for curiosity and prove some German cutlery made during the First World War. Slogan in WW1: «Gold gab ich für Eisen» - «Gold I donated for Iron». Bruckmann e.g. marked these objects: STAHL (STAHL = STEEL); prove: Magnet (also by «ZINNSTAHL» e.g. fork’s and spoons, produced between 1871 and 1914).
There was also a competitor from whom I remember imprecise to have seen a nearly similar cutlery pattern: «VDNS» «Vereinigte Deutsche Nickelwerke, Fleitmann & Witte, Schwerte/Ruhr».
«VDNS» Trade Mark and Punch were in that time of «Art Nouveau»: Frame a horizontal oval. Inside were two crossed sword. Inside circumscription by “V” (V = Vereinigte = United) left side centred, “D” (D = Deutsche = German) top centred, “N” (N = Nickelwerke = Nickel factory) right side centred, “S” (S = Schwerte [symbolized by: crossed swords = but nothing to do with Saxonia!]) base center.
«VDNS» product range included e.g. knife blade for fruit knifes in pure nickel marked: NICKEL
Dr. Fleitmann — a metallurgist — moved his premise from Iserlohn to Schwerte. Witte became companion and later one of «VDNS» shareholder’s.
Kind regards, silverport
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Silverport,
Thanks for identifying the manufacturer.
Yes, the Clarfeld & Springmeyer mark is an anchor between two human figures with raised arms. Unfortunately, I've never been able to get a good image of the mark for the website.
Does anyone have an example to contribute?
Both Josef Maria Olbrich and Ernst Reigel did designs for C & S. However this design does not look like the work of either. I remember that the firm had a chapter in the original Brohan catalogue "Metallkunst", which I no longer have. For some reason they were not included in the newer Brohan "Modern Art of Metalwork".
If someone can identify the designer, please let us know.
Thanks,
Tom
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Thanks for identifying the manufacturer.
Yes, the Clarfeld & Springmeyer mark is an anchor between two human figures with raised arms. Unfortunately, I've never been able to get a good image of the mark for the website.
Does anyone have an example to contribute?
Both Josef Maria Olbrich and Ernst Reigel did designs for C & S. However this design does not look like the work of either. I remember that the firm had a chapter in the original Brohan catalogue "Metallkunst", which I no longer have. For some reason they were not included in the newer Brohan "Modern Art of Metalwork".
If someone can identify the designer, please let us know.
Thanks,
Tom
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German Jugendstil Lilypad Pattern
Hello Tom
Just I’ve to make afterward a view correction
The pattern in question COULD BE produced by: Clarfeld & Springmeyer, Hemer in Westfalia. Time range: 1900 to 1910.
Clarfeld & Springmeyer’s Trade Mark and Punch for both product ranges - Silver alloy and Plated (the frame is a horizontal rectangular): Two men in full front, all legs straddle and all arms up, holding between them one men high anchor and in their upright outside arms they hold hammers upright. Mark is shown in «Deutsches Klingenmuseum Solingen» catalogue «Art Nouveau Knives, Forks and Spoons» (ISBN 3-925369-95-3), page 210, Nr. 15 (picture and in short company history).
There was also a competitor from whom I remember imprecise to have seen a nearly similar cutlery pattern: «VDNS» «Vereinigte Deutsche Nickelwerke, Fleitmann & Witte, Schwerte/Ruhr». It’s in «Deutsches Klingenmuseum Solingen» catalogue «Art Nouveau Knives, Forks and Spoons» (ISBN 3-925369-95-3), page 135, Nr. 154 (75 % picture), page 200 (around 1910 by collection objects description).
«VDNS» Trade Mark and Punch were in that time of «Art Nouveau»: Frame a horizontal oval. Inside were two crossed sword. Inside circumscription by “V” (V = Vereinigte = United) top centred, “D” (D = Deutsche = German) left side centred, “N” (N = Nickelwerke = Nickel factory) right side centred, “S” (S = Schwerte [symbolized by: crossed swords = but nothing to do with Saxony!]) base centre. Mark is shown in «Deutsches Klingenmuseum Solingen» catalogue «Art Nouveau Knives, Forks and Spoons» (ISBN 3-925369-95-3), page 213, Nr. 65 (picture and in short companies history).
Kind regards silverport
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Just I’ve to make afterward a view correction
The pattern in question COULD BE produced by: Clarfeld & Springmeyer, Hemer in Westfalia. Time range: 1900 to 1910.
Clarfeld & Springmeyer’s Trade Mark and Punch for both product ranges - Silver alloy and Plated (the frame is a horizontal rectangular): Two men in full front, all legs straddle and all arms up, holding between them one men high anchor and in their upright outside arms they hold hammers upright. Mark is shown in «Deutsches Klingenmuseum Solingen» catalogue «Art Nouveau Knives, Forks and Spoons» (ISBN 3-925369-95-3), page 210, Nr. 15 (picture and in short company history).
There was also a competitor from whom I remember imprecise to have seen a nearly similar cutlery pattern: «VDNS» «Vereinigte Deutsche Nickelwerke, Fleitmann & Witte, Schwerte/Ruhr». It’s in «Deutsches Klingenmuseum Solingen» catalogue «Art Nouveau Knives, Forks and Spoons» (ISBN 3-925369-95-3), page 135, Nr. 154 (75 % picture), page 200 (around 1910 by collection objects description).
«VDNS» Trade Mark and Punch were in that time of «Art Nouveau»: Frame a horizontal oval. Inside were two crossed sword. Inside circumscription by “V” (V = Vereinigte = United) top centred, “D” (D = Deutsche = German) left side centred, “N” (N = Nickelwerke = Nickel factory) right side centred, “S” (S = Schwerte [symbolized by: crossed swords = but nothing to do with Saxony!]) base centre. Mark is shown in «Deutsches Klingenmuseum Solingen» catalogue «Art Nouveau Knives, Forks and Spoons» (ISBN 3-925369-95-3), page 213, Nr. 65 (picture and in short companies history).
Kind regards silverport
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Hello, the pattern is 3800 by Franz Bahner, ca. 1905, give or take a few years. The designer is not known, all I have is an - almost completely unfounded - guess.
The Schwerte pattern is similar, there are just three leafs at the end of the handle, the rest of it is ornamented by vertical and horizontal lines. My Schwerte pieces of that pattern are just marked “Qualität Schwerte” in a rectangle plus a separately punched “90”. I am not aware of a similar Clarfeld pattern.
When the “Metallkunst” catalogue was revised, all the cutlery patterns were left out of the second edition, as it was planned to issue a separate catalogue of cutlery only. Publication of this has been postponed. I don’t believe it will come out soon.
Regards, Bahner
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The Schwerte pattern is similar, there are just three leafs at the end of the handle, the rest of it is ornamented by vertical and horizontal lines. My Schwerte pieces of that pattern are just marked “Qualität Schwerte” in a rectangle plus a separately punched “90”. I am not aware of a similar Clarfeld pattern.
When the “Metallkunst” catalogue was revised, all the cutlery patterns were left out of the second edition, as it was planned to issue a separate catalogue of cutlery only. Publication of this has been postponed. I don’t believe it will come out soon.
Regards, Bahner
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Hi Bahner,
Thanks for the info, let me do a recap to see if I have got this straight.
The piece illustrated above is pattern "3800" by Franz Bahner of Dusseldorf, produced in silver ca.1900-1910, designer unknown.
Vereinigte Deutsche Nickelwerke of Schwerte produced a similar lilypad pattern in silverplate at about the same time.
The Brohan Museum of Berlin may publish a catalog of their modern flatware collection at some unspecified time in the future.
Regards, Tom
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Thanks for the info, let me do a recap to see if I have got this straight.
The piece illustrated above is pattern "3800" by Franz Bahner of Dusseldorf, produced in silver ca.1900-1910, designer unknown.
Vereinigte Deutsche Nickelwerke of Schwerte produced a similar lilypad pattern in silverplate at about the same time.
The Brohan Museum of Berlin may publish a catalog of their modern flatware collection at some unspecified time in the future.
Regards, Tom
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A Clarfeld and Springmeyer mark has just been contributed to the website (thanks Mary!) and has been added to the German Marks section.
German Hallmarks after 1886 - page 1
remember to click on image to enlarge.
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German Hallmarks after 1886 - page 1
remember to click on image to enlarge.
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