early american tankard?

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wvandervelde
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early american tankard?

Postby wvandervelde » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:33 pm

Finally got the camera. Here are the pictures. The marks really do look authentic to my amateur eye(consider myself slightly above beginner at least:) but not sure as I said in my Photo Shy post. So, here they are...

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wvandervelde
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Postby wvandervelde » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:34 pm

just so it's clear, I'm sure the mark is J. P. G. and not J P C
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byron mac donald
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Postby byron mac donald » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:28 am

Hello W-

Has it tested positive as silver, or are there markings that you have not shown here? I agree that the mark's are "JPG" however, could it be made of Pewter: instead of silver? Either way... a very nice piece.

Regards- Byron
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kerangoumar
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early american tankard?

Postby kerangoumar » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:13 pm

indeed you have a sweet little cann - LOL

You said in your earlier post - viewtopic.php?t=9684 - that it tested as coin silver. As to whether it was made by Grimke, I can't say with authority, especially at this remove.

However, there is a bit of Grimke history you might wish to read

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ii ... ient=opera

I guess this falls into that "more things in heaven and earth" category
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wvandervelde
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Postby wvandervelde » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:14 am

Is there any way to identify it by form? I want to pick up a book about south american silver to check if any are similar in form. I have not been able to find any mugs by american makers with a similar handle.
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kerangoumar
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early american tankard?

Postby kerangoumar » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:20 pm

I personally do not have any books about S. American forms to recommend to you. However, I seem to recall a rather hefty Kovels book about American forms - of furniture, silver cups, flatware, decoration etc - but the title escapes me. I'm sure you'll be able to find it thru your library. (I don't think it is South American but without handling it I can't say)
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wvandervelde
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Postby wvandervelde » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:18 pm

The search for the maker continues...

I was wondering if anyone has Langdon's Canadian Silversmiths 1700-1900. I have looked through the 1966(I think) version but I know there is a reprint of it in the 1990's. I am once more convinced that it is North American in nature, and hope to gather the courage to ask the dealer I bought it from where he found it. The finish on the piece is similar to close ups I have seen on other Cann's and such(early coin silver is probably one of the areas in silver I have the least experience with since, in Canada at least, you just don't come across it every day.)
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