who were they copying?

[bubba]

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3 pc. set of bright cut each stamped S H Kirby in first 2 images.
Who was S H Kirby? maker? seller?
along with these came the 4th piece. "Whiting Antique Lily" 1882
shown in last images to compare the similarities in the patterns.
Comments on whether Whiting copied the 3 other pieces would be welcomed as the design was obviously copied by the later piece or are the 3 pcs. early Whiting w/retailers mark?
Your opinions welcomed.
I placed this in the coin forum because the 1st 3 pcs may fit the period while the Whiting piece obviously belongs in the sterling forum.
Thank all who participate in this discussion.
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[wev]

Samuel Hubbard Kirby was the retailer of the first pieces. This engraved pattern was manufactured by many wholesale firms -- I have seen versions retailed in cities from Sagadahoc to San Francisco.
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[wev]

Sorry -- forgot to add:

Curtiss J. and son Charles J. Munson were retail jewelers in New Haven CT into the 1880s.
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[silverly]

Curtis J Monson & Curtis J Monson Jr began listing their jewelry business
in the New Haven Directory as C J Monson & Son in 1883.

They are listed as such until 1890 when Curtis J Monson Jr removed
to Redland, California.
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