S&W Kings Pattern Dinner Fork

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S&W Kings Pattern Dinner Fork

Postby legrandmogol » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:59 pm

I am fairly confident that his piece is American and coin silver but I could be wrong. I am unsure who the maker is or if it is American at all. I have seen the mark described as Philadelphia Silversmiths Anthony Simmons & Samuel Williamson who worked together in 1797 - 1798 but this seems very unlikely as this would be far too early for an American Kings Pattern fork. The fork strikes me as mid 19th century American but the fork measures about 8.5" long which makes this fork longer than most American forks of the era.

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Re: S&W Kings Pattern Dinner Fork

Postby wev » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:50 pm

Sunderlin (Lewis) & Weaver (Devalson), Rochester c 1865

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Re: S&W Kings Pattern Dinner Fork

Postby legrandmogol » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:36 pm

Thank you for the quick response. Do you have a source for that? From what I can tell Sunderlin & Weaver were merely retailers and I can't find any reference for them using just an S&W. I only see them using their entire name.

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Re: S&W Kings Pattern Dinner Fork

Postby wev » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:52 pm

I have seen the mark with and without wholesale marks. Winterthur has several pieces such.

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Re: S&W Kings Pattern Dinner Fork

Postby legrandmogol » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:25 am

I could only find 1 spoon in the Winterthur online collection for Sunderland & Weaver and it looked a few decades older the 1867 but 1867 still makes more sense than 1798 so, for now, that is what I'll go with. Still, if it is Sunderland & Weaver, I think they still would only have retailed it as they were both jewelry manufacturers and not silversmiths. The piece has no other marks though so I guess that's where it ends.


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