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Help on ship back spoon
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:33 pm
by opab
I have been all over looking for info on my little spoon (4 1/4in). A UK dealer thought it may be early American before the silversmiths used something other that the lion passant. I started looking at UK marks, but realized that there weren't enough -hallmark, town, date. Any guidance would be appreciated. This is my first post - much good info here.



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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:44 pm
by dragonflywink
Remember seeing this spoon in another discussion group, with one participant sure that it was English, dating from around the 1770s. Will leave any opinions to members with better knowledge of British (some old pieces will not have full marks, for various reasons) and American coin marks. Personally, I've only run across a couple of these uncommon ship-back spoons and both were American coin from the late 1700s, which fits in well with the style of the engraved monogram (B[?] over T+S), though I've seen that arrangement more often on European pieces. Would you mind posting a full view of the spoon?
Cheryl ;o)
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Help on ship back spoon
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:00 pm
by opab
I believe that I posted the maker's mark upside down. It is TW. Would your mentioning that you have seen the owner's initials on European pieces fit with the idea that the silversmith may have come from the UK and still used that style?
(admin edit - You used html code which does not work on the forum, see -> How to Add Images).
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:16 pm
by dragonflywink
I was referring to the style of monogram, with the the surname initial over the couple's first name initials, being used during the period that this spoon was probably made, rather than in reference to its origin. My interest is often focused on Scandinavian silver, so I've run across that style of monogram mostly on Northern European pieces. I've also seen it used on both English and American silver. Hopefully someone else can help you further. To my eyes, the makers mark does appear to be "TW", but the other mark is just too indistinct to hazard any kind of guess as to whether it's even actually a lion-passant.
Cheryl ;o)
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Help on ship back spoon
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:46 pm
by opab
Cheryl, thanks for your interest. What am I doing wrong that the picture doesn't appear, only the URL?
Oh, any idea where I may turn to, to get some help?
Augie
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