Indecipherable Hallmark

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GeoffD
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Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby GeoffD » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:16 am

Grateful advice from anyone about the following set of three (3) hallmarks, all of which are square (or square/cut corners). They are on the reverse of a Royal Household enamel badge.
The first (1) hallmark is the correct h'mark for Birmingham (anchor, side on).
The third (3) hallmark is of a Lion Passant (facing towards the anchor).
Hallmark Two (2) is my problem. It looks like a crown or even a castle, but I can't find a match anywhere in my book on English Silver Hallmarks (Banister).
Finally, the words "Sterling" are also stamped on the reverse.
Any help, please?
Cheers,
GeoffD

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby dognose » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:47 am

Hi,

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby GeoffD » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:41 pm

Thanks Trev: much appreciated.
Given my hopeless ineptitude with taking on-line shots, I'll get my son to sort it all out when he next visits us in the country from Sydney.
Will be in touch again with you soon.
Cheers,
Geoff C

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby dognose » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:39 am

Hi Geoff,

If you struggle to capture an image of the mark because of its size, draw as accurately as possible what you see and photograph the drawing.

Trev.

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby GeoffD » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:15 am

Hi Trev - here is an image of the Hallmark. Grateful for any help you can offer.

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby dognose » Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:02 am

Hi Geoff,

Not Birmingham, but Toronto.

See P.W. Ellis & Co. at: http://www.925-1000.com/canadiansilver_01.html

and the history of the business at: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=19623

Trev.

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby GeoffD » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:25 pm

Trev,
Many thanks for the help: much appreciated.
I must say how surprised I am that the silver item is from Toronto. It's the last place I would have guessed.
Just one query, however: can you identify with ease the central hallmark (and is it the hallmark for which year?). I just wonder if it's a maple leaf under a D?
All kind regards,
Geoff

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby dognose » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:15 am

Hi Geoff,

Not 'D', nor a date letter, just the 'E' for 'Ellis':

Image

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby GeoffD » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:30 pm

Dear Trev,

Renewed thanks for your speedy reply, and for providing me with such excellent and accurate information. I am most grateful, especially as I would never have guessed in my wildest dreams that the (British) Royal Household badge had been cast in Canada.
Sincerely,
GeoffD

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby GeoffD » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:27 am

Hi Trev,
Seems a pity, from what you told me, that Canadian hallmarks do not include one for the date, unlike UK hallmarks which (usually) include one for dating the object in question.
Cheers.
Geoff

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Re: Indecipherable Hallmark

Postby dognose » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:29 am

Hi Geoff,

It's not a hallmark, only a maker's mark that imitates the mark of the Birmingham Assay Office.

Trev.


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