Identify hallmarks

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PW333abc
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Identify hallmarks

Postby PW333abc » Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:06 am

Hello!


I would be very grateful for help. I wonder if the spoon is made in Russia and what year.

Best regards

Per

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AG2012
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Re: Identify hallmarks

Postby AG2012 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:13 am

Hi,
Marks are upside down.
The mark LUM is translated as the mark of the Leningrad jewelry and watch factory on products made of non-precious metals.
(клеймо ЛЮМ переводится как клеймо Ленинградской ювелирно-часовой фабрики на изделиях не из драг металла)

1967

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Re: Identify hallmarks

Postby PW333abc » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:35 am

Hello!

Thank you very much for the answer.

Best regards

Per

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Re: Identify hallmarks

Postby Qrt.S » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:32 pm

@AG2012
According to Troepolskaja #18844 and #18845 the same mark was used 1957 and 1967 (!?) How to know what year?
FYI,
The other mark "мельх." (мельхиор) stands for German silver.

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Re: Identify hallmarks

Postby AG2012 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:46 am

Indeed,the same mark appeared in both years:
Клеймо ЛЮ7М - 1967 год
Клеймо ЛЮ7 М - 1957 год

1967 was 50th anniversary of 1917 revolution and enormous number of items commemorating the revolution was produced by that factory, so everything I saw was made in 1967.
Did not even think of 1957 until Qrt.S pointed it out, which led me to visit several Russian sites to confirm Qrt.S is right.
I have no explanation for that.
This raises the question of faked Imperial Russian silver.
Good to know: hundreds of thousands, probably millions of enamel badges were made in Soviet block at the time, practically worthless.
And the enamel was of rather good quality,by the way.So what they did after the collapse of USSR ?
They concluded it was more profitable to fake Imperial Russian enamel.Then China and India joined for full confusion.
Many factors contributed to Imperial Russian enamel to become fashionable, much sought for, lucrative and expensive.
Although, to be honest,except for several reputable makers in Russia (mostly Finns working for Faberge), much better enamel was made in Scandinavia,Britain,France,Austria,Pforzheim...

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Re: Identify hallmarks

Postby PW333abc » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:17 pm

Hello!

Thanks so much for all the interesting information.

Best regards

Per


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