German mark?

[DeanC]

Hi,
This is the inside back of a watch. The half moon and crown seem to indicate that it's German, but can't make out the two animal marks (seem to be lions..?) so as to get a more precise idea of date. It's an art deco watch, so 1910's or 1920's ? Checked out the German marks page, but didn't find a match.


Any help appreciated.
Thanks

[2209patrick]

Hello. The bear mark looks like a Swiss mark used between 1882 and 1934.
Indicates a fineness of .875 or above.
http://www.925-1000.com/foreign_marks.html

Not sure what the crown/moon mark means.

Pat.

[byron mac donald]

Hi Pat-
Okay, now I'm confused (easily done) I see what you are saying about the bear mark being Swiss. But dosen't the moon/crown mean German?

[2209patrick]

Hello Byran.
You're correct in saying the crescent moon/crown mark usually indicates Germany.
Not sure what it means here. Maybe a company trademark?

In my first post I just wanted to let DeanC know about the swiss marks.


Pat.

[wolfgang]

Hi, its typical to have both german and swiss hallmarks on watches of this time, early twentieth century, watches being built in switzerland and exported to germany.
regards wolfgang

[Bahner]

Hello, my experience, too. As Germany never used import marks, a German seller simply stamped halfmoon and crown beside the fineness. Strictly, the "0,835" wasn't legal, but nobody cared. Best wishes, Bahner

[byron mac donald]

Thank you Wolfgang and Bahner, this is great to know.

Byron

[DeanC]

Hi everyone,
Thanks so much for your information.
Cheers!