Please help identify Vienna Maker ES

[mach1948]

Hi friends.
Can anyone help identify the master "ES" Vienna 1861
regards
Mariusz

[dognose]

Your question cannot be answered without the required images.

Trev.

[mach1948]

sorry
https://zapodaj.net/0b906ce5707b8.jpg.html
https://zapodaj.net/7dfe344bdacaa.jpg.html
regards
Mariusz

[dognose]

Please embed your images.

https://postimages.org (choose 'Share', then copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended.

Trev.

[mach1948]

https://i.postimg.cc/V6hM3gdR/ES.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/hGypt9XJ/ES1.jpg

[dognose]

[huszas76]

Hello!
Maybe some better photos could help but in first sight seems fake marks to me.
Best regards!
Krisztián

[AG2012]

Hi,
I agree with Krisztián; Radpunze looks suspicious (arrow). There is another mark (circle).
Besides, the engraved decor of this kind is almost never seen in 1861 Vienna late Biedermeier (neo baroque or Wiener Rosensilber decor).
That`s the reason we ask for the image of the item, not only marks.
Regards

[mach1948]

https://i.postimg.cc/GhB6tW5j/balsamina.jpg

[mach1948]

https://i.postimg.cc/wv7nNnBH/ca-a-balsamina.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/52grRfYb/punce-es.jpg
H -56 cm

[huszas76]

Here are the original hallmarks from 1851 and 1861.


The differences are obvious.
And I don't want to guess when and how become a fake one.
Best regards!
Krisztián

[mach1948]

Hello,
Kind regards to you both and thank you for all the research you have both done,
Hope you both have a fantastic Christmas and the best ever New Year,
Mariusz