1909 Christian F. Heise spoon. Help with "800" requested

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nathanlongan
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1909 Christian F. Heise spoon. Help with "800" requested

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I just bought a nice serving spoon and would like to know the origin of the "800" stamp between the three towers stamp and the Christian F. Heise stamp. I understand it must indicate the silver content; I just can't find that image.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/LM4JbwNkFFeD3Lj57

Thanks for any help.
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Re: 1909 Christian F. Heise spoon. Help with "800" requested

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Hi Nathan,

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Re: 1909 Christian F. Heise spoon. Help with "800" requested

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Hi,
It is modern Russian laser cut remarking (after 1994).
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Fascinating! Thank you!
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AG2012 wrote:Hi,
It is modern Russian laser cut remarking (after 1994).
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Thanks! Fascinating! Does that mean that the silver fineness is really 800/1000 rather than 826/1000 as I thought from other reading?
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Re-marking usually means testing (and/or inspecting original marks) and then applying the mark (punch) with the same or the closest official fineness legislated in the country where re-marking is done.
Russia has .800 but not e.g. .830, so the closest fineness is .800.
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@nathanlogan
A minor comment. The fineness mark shows the lowest possible legal fineness. In Denmark it was 826 since 1893. As of 1961 raised to 830 and from 1988 lowered to 800.
The fineness of your spoon is as you assume 826(-829,9) because it is made in 1909. However, the Russians do not use 826 fineness and therefore there is no such punch with that value. That means they the use the closest one and that is 800 when the spoon was remarked in NW region of Russia.
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