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Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:42 pm
by PW333abc
Hello!
I would be grateful for help. Is this silver?
Best regards
Per
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:10 pm
by dognose
Hi Per,
See J.D. Schleissner & Sohne of Hanau at:
https://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.htmlTrev.
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:20 pm
by PW333abc
Hello Trev!
Thank you so much for the answer. So it's real silver? Can it be made before 1888?
Best regards
Per
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:38 pm
by PW333abc
PW333abc wrote:Hello Trev!
Thank you so much for the answer. So it's real silver or?
Paste from another web site about silver:
Hanau marks are not registered trademarks but only reproductions of ancient silver marks.
Similar symbols were used by different manufacturers and familiar or financial interaction between different Hanau companies could be the basis for crossover.
Does this mean that the stamp means that it is not genuine silver?
Best regards
Per
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:50 pm
by AG2012
Hi,
It is solid silver. They are still in business. Dating is difficult, particularly based on marks; those marks are seen on silver made in 20th century, but also earlier. The image of the item would be helpful.
Regards
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:54 pm
by PW333abc
AG2012 wrote:Hi,
It is solid silver. They are still in business. Dating is difficult, particularly based on marks; those marks are seen on silver made in 20th century, but also earlier. The image of the item would be helpful.
Regards
Hello!
Thank you so much for the answer.
Best regards
Per
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:56 pm
by PW333abc
PW333abc wrote:AG2012 wrote:Hi,
It is solid silver. They are still in business. Dating is difficult, particularly based on marks; those marks are seen on silver made in 20th century, but also earlier. The image of the item would be helpful.
Regards
Hello!
Thank you so much for the answer.
Best regards
Per
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:03 pm
by AG2012
Define ``genuine silver`` and ``real silver``.
If the terms are referring to the alloy, Hanau products ARE SOLID SILVER made of different alloys (.800 i.e. 80% silver, up to sterling standard .925 ).
If the terms are referring to the marks, Hanau products bear fantasy and pseudo marks resembling old marks because they made reproductions of antique silver from Renaissance and later periods, due to high demand for ``antique`` silver at the turn of 19th century.
Not meant to deceive, unless misused by unscrupulous dealers.
Regards
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:05 pm
by AG2012
Typical Hanau box made in late 19th or early 20th century.
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:14 pm
by PW333abc
AG2012 wrote:Typical Hanau box made in late 19th or early 20th century.
Hello!
Thank you so much for the answer. I wonder if the object has a fineness of 80% or more? Gets unsure as it is not stamped with for example 800, 830. But then I know that this item is genuine silver and not nickel silver. I also thought that all silver objects in Germany made after 1888 must have finesse, crown and crescent.
Best regards
Per
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:20 pm
by AG2012
There are many German silver items without crescent and crown.
Hanau silver exported to UK had to be sterling standard, otherwise it was mostly .800.
Re: Silver?
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:24 pm
by PW333abc
Hello!
Thank you so much for all the help. I am a beginner in this field. I am very grateful to everyone who answers all my questions.
Best regards
Per