Hello!
I would be very grateful for help. I have a spoon with Russian marks. I recognize mark 84. With the others, I would like help with. What the silversmith is, city and year.
Best regards
Per
Help with marks
Re: Help with marks
Hi,
from left to right:
MD or ML, or MA the maker`s mark I cannot recognize.
Ivan Avdeev was the assayer in Moscow 1852-1862.
84
Moscow St George town mark.
Poland remark after 1920.
Regards
from left to right:
MD or ML, or MA the maker`s mark I cannot recognize.
Ivan Avdeev was the assayer in Moscow 1852-1862.
84
Moscow St George town mark.
Poland remark after 1920.
Regards
Re: Help with marks
Hello!AG2012 wrote:Hi,
from left to right:
MD or ML, or MA the maker`s mark I cannot recognize.
Ivan Avdeev was the assayer in Moscow 1852-1862.
84
Moscow St George town mark.
Poland remark after 1920.
Regards
Thank you very much for the answer.
Best regards
Per
Re: Help with marks
The maker could be Mihail Dimitryev (МД), active in Moscow 1854-1877 (PL#2643). It matches well with assayer Ivan Avdeyev's working period 1852-1862.
Re: Help with marks
Hi,
Qrt.S has identified the maker. Here better image of his mark.
In Skurlov several silversmiths of Dmitriev family with identical initials for Maxim and Michail. Or Skurlov listed all his sources in connection with the first reference in PL where no first name is given, just Dmitriev M.(Marks are the same М. Д.)
Qrt.S has identified the maker. Here better image of his mark.
In Skurlov several silversmiths of Dmitriev family with identical initials for Maxim and Michail. Or Skurlov listed all his sources in connection with the first reference in PL where no first name is given, just Dmitriev M.(Marks are the same М. Д.)
ДМИТРИЕВ М., мастер серебряного, чеканного и черневого дела, владелец мастерской. По сведениям 1860 г. имел работников — 6, учеников–10. Посуда. Постникова—Лосева: клейма №№ 2642 — 2645.
ДМИТРИЕВ Максим, 1861: мещанин, СДМ, клеймо: М. Д.
ДМИТРИЕВ Максим, 1858: 52 г., умер в 1861 г. Двоюродные братья Максима: Василий Иванович, 1858: 40 л., умер в 1869 г., Алексей Иванович, 1874: 48 л., умер в 1883 г., племянник Алексея Ивановича — Павел Яковлев, 1858: 18 л., умер в 1870 г., сын Павла — Василий, 1874: 4 г., (1869 г. р.).
ДМИТРИЕВ Михаил, 1853: мещанин, 1861: 3 гильдии купец, СДМ, клеймо: М. Д.
Re: Help with marks
Hello!AG2012 wrote:Hi,
Qrt.S has identified the maker. Here better image of his mark.
In Skurlov several silversmiths of Dmitriev family with identical initials for Maxim and Michail. Or Skurlov listed all his sources in connection with the first reference in PL where no first name is given, just Dmitriev M.(Marks are the same М. Д.)
ДМИТРИЕВ М., мастер серебряного, чеканного и черневого дела, владелец мастерской. По сведениям 1860 г. имел работников — 6, учеников–10. Посуда. Постникова—Лосева: клейма №№ 2642 — 2645.
ДМИТРИЕВ Максим, 1861: мещанин, СДМ, клеймо: М. Д.
ДМИТРИЕВ Максим, 1858: 52 г., умер в 1861 г. Двоюродные братья Максима: Василий Иванович, 1858: 40 л., умер в 1869 г., Алексей Иванович, 1874: 48 л., умер в 1883 г., племянник Алексея Ивановича — Павел Яковлев, 1858: 18 л., умер в 1870 г., сын Павла — Василий, 1874: 4 г., (1869 г. р.).
ДМИТРИЕВ Михаил, 1853: мещанин, 1861: 3 гильдии купец, СДМ, клеймо: М. Д.
Thank you very much for the answer.
Best regards
Per
Re: Help with marks
Qrt.S wrote:The maker could be Mihail Dimitryev (МД), active in Moscow 1854-1877 (PL#2643). It matches well with assayer Ivan Avdeyev's working period 1852-1862.
Hello!
Thank you very much for the answer.
Best regards
Per