84 hallmark WARSAW
Re: 84 hallmark WARSAW
Hi,
А. Ридель.
Minsk overstruck ? Besides,there was unidentified assayer O.C in Minsk.I hope it is not a Judaica item.
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А. Ридель.
Minsk overstruck ? Besides,there was unidentified assayer O.C in Minsk.I hope it is not a Judaica item.
Regards
Re: 84 hallmark WARSAW
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This is Antoni Riedel from Warsaw. OC is Józef Sosnowski. The object is not Judaica, it is a milk jug. I am wondering by the mark of the assayer, the silversmith marks seems to be ok.
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This is Antoni Riedel from Warsaw. OC is Józef Sosnowski. The object is not Judaica, it is a milk jug. I am wondering by the mark of the assayer, the silversmith marks seems to be ok.
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Re: 84 hallmark WARSAW
madej is right, it is Warsaw in Poland and the assayer OC is very well known Osip Sosnkovsky 1862-1896. He is also known as Josef Stanislavovich S., marking IS 1852-53 and Ios S. marking IS 1850-1862.
Sosnkovsky never worked in MInsk in Belarus. This is a common misunderstanding related to the Minsk chapter in Postnikova on pages 200-201. It is a complete mess. Most of the names worked in Warsaw. Riedel is also incorrectly placed in Minsk as #1906. Minsk and Warsaw town marks are very similar, both a double headed eagle. This probably misled Postnikova, who knows?
Sosnkovsky never worked in MInsk in Belarus. This is a common misunderstanding related to the Minsk chapter in Postnikova on pages 200-201. It is a complete mess. Most of the names worked in Warsaw. Riedel is also incorrectly placed in Minsk as #1906. Minsk and Warsaw town marks are very similar, both a double headed eagle. This probably misled Postnikova, who knows?
Re: 84 hallmark WARSAW
Yes, A·P would be Aleksandr Romanov 1899-1904, AB would be Wyrzykov, Andrzei / Vyrzhikovskij, Aleksandr Kasimirovitch 1904-1910/16(?). Both active in Warsaw the mentioned years (A.Romanov moved to St Petersburg in April 1904 and worked there to 1912. Below Romanov's activity list:
Moscow 1883(6)-1894
Riga 1895-1898
Warsaw 1899-1904
St: Petersburg 1904-1912
Moscow 1883(6)-1894
Riga 1895-1898
Warsaw 1899-1904
St: Petersburg 1904-1912
Re: 84 hallmark WARSAW
Thank you,
I had no doubt about the silversmith who is known and appreciated in Poland. I had no objections to the assayer. I mean if everything with the hallmark is all right because it looks a little uncertain because of the double-beating.
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I had no doubt about the silversmith who is known and appreciated in Poland. I had no objections to the assayer. I mean if everything with the hallmark is all right because it looks a little uncertain because of the double-beating.
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Re: 84 hallmark WARSAW
The mark to the left is a stirrup (strzemię), Riedel's logo. Polish silversmiths used commonly a logo mark in connection with their maker's mark
Re: 84 hallmark WARSAW
Yes, I know.
I can't say what I mean because of my poor English. I mean, do you think the marks don't raise any doubts in terms of authenticity?
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I can't say what I mean because of my poor English. I mean, do you think the marks don't raise any doubts in terms of authenticity?
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Re: 84 hallmark WARSAW
No problem, it is authentic.