What is this?

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What is this?

Postby amena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:36 am

Hello everyone
I found this bowl which I think is German or neighbors, because of the number 13. It also bears a mark used in the Kingdom of Sardinia between 1824 and 1872 on silver items coming from abroad.
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What I would like to know is what exactly this object was for.
it's too big to be a sugar bowl and too small to be a tureen.
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Amena

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Re: What is this?

Postby AG2012 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:07 am

Hi,
A sugar bowl and cover (lidded).
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Re: What is this?

Postby amena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:09 am

A very big sugar bowl ! The presentoir dish has a diameter of 19 cm !!

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Re: What is this?

Postby JayT » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:55 pm

My vote also goes to a sugar bowl. Tea services were quite large and imposing at the time, so this would not have been out of proportion to the rest of the pieces. If the interior is gilt, then a compote for fruit, or a jam dish could be a possibility.

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Re: What is this?

Postby amena » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:57 am

Well, I take note and, until proven otherwise, I will consider it a sugar bowl, although I have not found similar examples on the web.
The whole object was gilded once, inside and outside; today the gilding is worn out in many parts.
Thank you all
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Re: What is this?

Postby huszas76 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:10 pm

Dear Amena!
I know, that the original question is not about the maker, but maybe could be interesting too.
It's Schwabisch Gmünd, Dominik Kött.
Best regards!
Krisztián

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Re: What is this?

Postby amena » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:15 am

Hi Krisztián
I am stunned.
I hadn't even asked who the silversmith could be, because I thought it was impossible to find it with just the initials.
Thank you so much, it's very interesting news.
Perhaps you also know in what years he worked?
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Amena

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Re: What is this?

Postby huszas76 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:19 am

Dominikus Kött mentioned in 1855.
Source: DAs Gmünder Schmuckhandwerk bis zum beginn des XIX. jahrhunderts. p: 85
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Krisztián

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Re: What is this?

Postby Qrt.S » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:53 am

Interessant, aber warum gibt es keine Beschauzeichen, nur eine Herstellermarke?

Fragt Qrt.S

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Re: What is this?

Postby amena » Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:36 am

Thanks Krisztián for details.
As I said in the initial post, the sugar bowl also has a mark used in the Kingdom of Sardinia for objects coming from abroad.
Could it be that this bowl was produced for the Italian market and therefore lacking German hallmark ??
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Re: What is this?

Postby huszas76 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:00 pm

Dear amena!
A met this mark a lot of time in Hungary, so probably they worked a lot for export not only Austria-Hungary, but for Italy too.
Or some other regions too.
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Krisztián

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Re: What is this?

Postby Italiansilver » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:19 am

Could be a "tazza da puerpera"?

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Re: What is this?

Postby amena » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:50 am

Your hypothesis is very convincing.
There are many similar examples on the Internet, especially Piedmontese.
I'd say you hit the target.
Thanks
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Re: What is this?

Postby Italiansilver » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:57 am

Is one of my favourites silver (and not only) item.
Pretty rare.
Not ever easy to distinguish it from a big sugar cup with plate.
Easier if it is made in porcelain (very very rare).


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