French and Portuguese marks

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French and Portuguese marks

Postby oel » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:12 pm

These marks are seen on a (incomplete) French silver tea, coffee, & chocolate set;

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To my understanding made in France, export mark for silver with the core image the head of Mercury with the number 1 for silver minimum 950/000, used 1879-2000. The maker’s mark in a French lozenge: H)Spoon(L
http://www2.culture.gouv.fr/public/mist ... 4%24%2534P
I search; initales HL with symboles cuillère (spoon)
With no results so I guess the maker's mark is prior 1878?
I am afraid I need some help, thanks.

And we have the sitting boar for Portugal, the frame shape for Lisbon. The number 1 for minimum 916/000 used 1887-1938. The sphinx or lying lion above L , I assume is the Lisbon retailer’s mark.
All response is welcome. Thanks.


Peter.

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Re: French and Portuguese marks

Postby JayT » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:19 pm

Hello Peter
Look no further for the French maker Lapeyre:
https://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_makers_H.html
Sorry can’t help with the Portuguese marks.
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Re: French and Portuguese marks

Postby JayT » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:23 pm

P.S.
Lapeyre has appeared before in this forum. A search will yield some more info about the French maker.

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Re: French and Portuguese marks

Postby oel » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:12 pm

Hi JayT,

It goes without saying I have to study the Forum French Maker's Mark Menu. For me it seems the French Ministry of Culture website and entering the initials HL does not work.
Thank you very much for the information and guiding me in the right direction.

Best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: French and Portuguese marks

Postby JayT » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:17 pm

You’re welcome Peter.
Yes, the French Ministry of Culture website isn’t very user-friendly, but the maker is there. Perhaps you didn’t enter the initials in uppercase, with a period after each letter?
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Re: French and Portuguese marks

Postby oel » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:10 pm

Indeed with period (full point) it works.

Cheers JayT!


Peter

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Re: French and Portuguese marks

Postby JayT » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:57 pm

Yay! Now you know...

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Re: French and Portuguese marks

Postby Funkel » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:57 pm

Good afternoon oel, the Portuguese brand:

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And the French brand:

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Atronyme Lapeyre (Eschwege Succ.). Prenom (Etat civil) Henri Initiales H.L. Profession Fabricant orfevre Lieu d'activite 75 Paris Adresse de l'atelier 49 rue Meslay N° de garantie B883 N° de prefecture 11299 Date d'insculpation 19 novembre 1895 Date de biffage 30 mars 1923 Symboles une cuiller entre deux croissants.

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Re: French and Portuguese marks

Postby oel » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:46 pm

Dear Funkel.
Thank you very much for the information. All clear, much appreciated.
Best wishes,

Perer.


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