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HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:37 am
by madej
Hello.
What a goldsmith it is. Saltykov is not :) Poor quality and the object was made after 1908.
Please click on the image for better qualitty.
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Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:16 am
by AG2012
Hi,
Most likely Nikolay Strulev.
Николай Струлёв

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Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:46 am
by AG2012
There is a controversy with N.Strulev (Stroulev).
4030 in Ivanov claims ``Moscow after 1908``
The same in PL №№ 2747, 2748
But in Skurlov - N.Strulev died 1898.
СТРУЛЕВ Николай Федорович, упоминается в 1883 г. В цехе с 1887 г; 1858: 19 л., 1895: завед. сер. изд., Грохольский. с. д. Умер в 1898 г. Сыновья: Алексей 1873 г. р., умер в 1904 г., Константин 1876 г. р., умер в 1896 г., Александр 1878 г. р. Посуда, украшения. Эмаль. Постникова—Лосева: клейма №№ 2747, 2748.

Nevertheless, many items attributed to him (including cigarette cases) were made after 1908.
There was Natalia Strouleva (the same family name) who was a trader in the same time frame, but no reference for her relation with N. Strulev

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Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 9:54 am
by Goldstein
A little reminder:

There are certain rules of conduct in this forum! One of them is not just to show the silver stamp - but the entire object.
Only then can it be possible to draw conclusions about the manufacturer.

Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:31 am
by madej
Hi
Thank you AG2012
Goldstein here is the picture of the object.
Click on the photo for better qualitty.
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Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:01 pm
by AG2012
Very popular motif after Russian painter Ivan Shishkin.
I think it`s not known who made the first mold but it was widely copped, and always rather crude details, though.

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Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:15 pm
by madej
Thank you
I knew that it was only the motif from the image that I did not remember the author :)
I am very interested who is a silversmith
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Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 1:01 pm
by AG2012
In spite of contradicting year of death in Skurlov, both PL and Ivanov say Nikolay Strulev. Николай Струлёв after 1908.
Besides, when a silversmith dies it does not mean everything he made is buried with him or destroyed.

Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:08 pm
by madej
Thank you
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Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:01 am
by Goldstein
Hi -

Shishkin´s motif was used nearly by all major manufacturers. Even the 5th Moscow Artel and the Soviet makers used it!

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Goldstein

Re: HALLMARK ID

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:13 pm
by madej
Thank you