Fake hallmarks

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Fake hallmarks

Postby madej » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:11 pm

Hi.This hallmark.is.fake?Please click on the image for.better quality.
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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby Goldstein » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:50 pm

Hi madej -

looks like W. Kangin from St. Petersburg - remarked in Latvia.
If you can not provide decent photos and handle the "Preview" button - dispense with posting!

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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby Dad » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:37 am

Goldstein,

There are two different spoons. Second spoon with enamel, from Moscow.

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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby Goldstein » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:48 am

Hi Dad -
many thanks for your help - I saw that.
W. Kangin made no enamel! But the second spoon shows no maker - only town mark, silver content and remarking from Latvia - I have allowed myself to mention that - maybe a little confusing for the inexperienced user and photo artist ...I try to get better!

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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby madej » Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:57 pm

Sorry for the bad pics previously.
For better quality please click on the photo.
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Last edited by oel on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: From haalmark to hallmark

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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby Goldstein » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:07 am

Hi madej -
the enamel spoon was made by GK = Gustav Klingert, Moscow - famous firm.

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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby madej » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:41 pm

Hallmark875 is not strange?

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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby Qrt.S » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:13 am

I am not so sure about the maker being Gustav Klingert. He very seldom used Latin letters i.e GK in his punches. Usually he punched ГК., КЛИНГАРТ, KLINGERT rarely GK. Note with a dot! (if he at all used GK, it is as for now still a bit unclear.) Undoubtedly the letters looks very much like GK (Latin) but more like Cyrillic CK (Latin SK). That would be Semen Kasakov in St Petersburg around 1889-1900 also known for his enameled objects, P#2881. Use the search function with "Kasakov" and you will find more information and discussions about the mark, him and Klingert. In addition, the photo of the set is not clear enough to see the enameled pattern. It would probably have helped to see it.

About the "strange" hallmark. Goldstein already mentioned that it is a Latvian remarking punch used after Latvia became independent 1918 (-1945). Without this mark silver objects could not be officially sold in Latvia.

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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby Goldstein » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:54 am

Hi -
a photo tells more than thousand words:
Gustav Klingert
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Semen Kasakov
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often you can distinguish the maker only by the use of the typical enamel colours!

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Re: Fake hallmarks

Postby Qrt.S » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:56 am

We are talking about madej's spoon only.


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