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dimi66
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Fish Slice

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Hello,

Can anybody help to identify the marks "PH" and "10"? I am roaming around Bergen, Tønder, and -less probable - Ulm.
Thanks in advance.

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dimi66
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Re: Fish Slice

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This should be better.
moonshine
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Brazil perhaps?
Theoderich
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i think it is about from 1770-90

10 Loth war usual in thuringia or west-saxony
dimi66
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Re: Fish Slice

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Thank you both,
Moonshine and Theoderich,

for your hints on where the slice could come from. I am sorry to say that I couldn't get any further. In case of a provenance from Thuringia or Saxony the informations on silversmiths in this area for me are hard to find. A Brazilian provenance was a surprising possibility from which I learnt that in this case the "10" meant ten dinheiros (10/12), that's 833/1000, in contrast to ten loth (10/16), that's 625/1000. But the missing crown mark and no "PH" find stopped deeper insight.
In the Rabinovitch book on silver servers I saw that the slice design was popular in Germany and Danmark (what doesn' exclude additional provenances) from 1770 to 1790. Good guesstimate Theoderich!

So thanks again

Yours

Dimi
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Re: Fish Slice

Post by Theoderich »

Hi Dimi


Can you determine the fineness? Make the test, whether it is 10/12 or 10/16.
dimi66
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Hi Theoderich,
unfortunately I don't know how.
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Post by AG2012 »

Hi,
Jewelers have electronic testers. It takes a couple of minutes. Acid test is not reliable here.
10 Loth = 625/1,000
10 dinero/dinheiro = 833.3/1,000.
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Re: Fish Slice

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Thanks, I'll try.
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