Fish Slice

[dimi66]

Hello,

Can anybody help to identify the marks "PH" and "10"? I am roaming around Bergen, Tønder, and -less probable - Ulm.
Thanks in advance.



dimi66

[dimi66]

This should be better.

[moonshine]

Brazil perhaps?

[Theoderich]

i think it is about from 1770-90

10 Loth war usual in thuringia or west-saxony

[dimi66]

Thank you both,
Moonshine and Theoderich,

for your hints on where the slice could come from. I am sorry to say that I couldn't get any further. In case of a provenance from Thuringia or Saxony the informations on silversmiths in this area for me are hard to find. A Brazilian provenance was a surprising possibility from which I learnt that in this case the "10" meant ten dinheiros (10/12), that's 833/1000, in contrast to ten loth (10/16), that's 625/1000. But the missing crown mark and no "PH" find stopped deeper insight.
In the Rabinovitch book on silver servers I saw that the slice design was popular in Germany and Danmark (what doesn' exclude additional provenances) from 1770 to 1790. Good guesstimate Theoderich!

So thanks again

Yours

Dimi

[Theoderich]

Hi Dimi


Can you determine the fineness? Make the test, whether it is 10/12 or 10/16.

[dimi66]

Hi Theoderich,
unfortunately I don't know how.

[AG2012]

Hi,
Jewelers have electronic testers. It takes a couple of minutes. Acid test is not reliable here.
10 Loth = 625/1,000
10 dinero/dinheiro = 833.3/1,000.

[dimi66]

Thanks, I'll try.