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Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:45 pm
by anikopol
Hello,

I would like to have more information relative to these marks, but unfortunatly I do not have any book relating to Spanish silver.

What I read :
- CAR/XO : silversmith ?
- BAR under a star ? : probably Barcelona, XVIIIe s., but I could not be more precise.
- unidentified mark (mark proving that purity was tested ? that taxes were paid, like "charge" mark for French silver of 18e century ?)

http://hpics.li/3a46ad4
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Any help apreciated, thanks.

Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:41 am
by dognose
Hi,

You will have far more chance of getting an answer if you embed your images as very few people will click on links or thumbnails.

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Trev.

Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:15 pm
by anikopol
Tanks for your help Trev !

Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:02 pm
by dognose
The only thing that I can add is that the centre mark is one used at Barcelona and that it was in use during the the first half of the 19th century.

Trev.

Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:23 pm
by Ubaranda
It's really Barcelona. Most likely the beginning of the 19th century. Unfortunately the maker (or assayer?) is unknown to me.
Best regards.

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Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:01 pm
by anikopol
Dear Ubaranda,
Thank you for your confirmation.
Can you give me the reference of the book from which the image is extracted ?

I am surprised that for a main city like Barcelona, the book displays the mark for 16th c.,1825, but not for 17th c nor 18th c. !
I seems that there is not so many books about Spanish marks, isn't ?

Thanks.

Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:31 pm
by Ubaranda
Hi anikopol!
It's not a book. It's site http://www.munozarce.com/index.htm
There are two most interesting and useful section:
http://www.munozarce.com/contrastes/loc ... efault.htm
http://www.munozarce.com/contrastes/pla ... /index.htm

Best regards.

Re: Spanish mark 18e century - Probably Barcelona

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:37 am
by Funkel
Buenos días.
Barcelona utilizó esa marca entre los siglos XVIII y XIX. (La Cruz de San Jorge, patrón de la ciudad, sobre las siglas BAR.)
Adjunto una foto del ensayador utilizada a mediados del XVIII.
Siento no conocer mas datos.
Saludos

Google translation:
Good Morning.
Barcelona used that mark between the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. (The Cross of St. George, patron saint of the city, on the acronym BAR.)
Attached is a photo of the assayer used in the middle of the XVIII.
Sorry to hear no more data.
regards

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