W Lameyer

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W Lameyer

Postby Littlejohnpotter » Fri May 06, 2016 11:24 pm

Does anyone have info on this maker? I think it is German. It is on a sugar bowl? Thanks for any help.

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby SteveDWollongong » Sun May 08, 2016 2:31 am

Hi,

I have embedded the photo for you;

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby SteveDWollongong » Sun May 08, 2016 2:52 am

Okay, so the first mark of W. Lameyer is I believe, the retailers mark for Wilhelm Lameyer of Hannover.
The next mark, which I 'll call a picture of a screw press, is the makers trademark. Although not identical to the various marks illustrated on this website, I think it probably belongs to M.H Wilkens and Sons of Bremen.

see what you think but before positively attributing to Wilkens, I'd wait to see what others have to say.

http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks_a1884_9.html

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby silverfan » Sun May 08, 2016 3:39 am

yes, maker is Wilkens, Bremen and seller Lameyer, Hannover.
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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Littlejohnpotter » Mon May 09, 2016 11:22 pm

Thanks the info is great. Any idea on the age/dare of this.

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby SteveDWollongong » Tue May 10, 2016 2:03 am

A photo of the sugar bowl would help in dating it.

All I can tell you from the marks is that it was made after 1886 when the crescent and crown were introduced.

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Tue May 10, 2016 6:12 am

Hi Steve,

Somewhere between 1916 and 1943 (Wilhelm Lameyer * 10-8-1889 - + 30-5-1928)
His father Carl Lameyer * 19-4-1847 - + 24-4-1923 (W.Lameyer & Son)

(30-5-1928) The company was continued by widow Magda Lameyer-Eicke

At the first major air attack on Hanover on 26-7-1943 the company was destroyed
The company was launched in 1956

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Tue May 10, 2016 6:46 am

Addition:

Widow Magda Lameijer-Eicke * 11-8-1895 - + 28-6-1956

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Tue May 10, 2016 7:06 am

Correction

Grrrrrmmmmpfffffff...............

The company name is deleted in 1956

Stupid translator

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby SteveDWollongong » Tue May 10, 2016 8:18 am

Dendriet you are a star! Again you've managed to provide the best details.

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Tue May 10, 2016 9:46 am

Thanks Steve, I will change my name Image

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Tue May 10, 2016 11:34 am

A photo of the sugar bowl would help in on a more precise dating it.
Jugendstil/art nouveau or art deco

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Thu May 12, 2016 6:26 am

Littlejohnpotter wrote:Thanks the info is great. Any idea on the age/dare of this.



Hi LittleJohnPotter,

We asked for a picture to give you a more sharp age of the sugar bowl.

No answer or response received.

Are you satisfied with the answer that I have given.?

If the answer is not clear enough, we would like to hear that.

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Dendriet

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Littlejohnpotter » Fri May 13, 2016 12:05 am

Great answers, even better history. Thanks.

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Fri May 13, 2016 4:20 am

Hi

Thanks for the picture.

I see that there is the interpretation may be wrong between production MH Wilkens and Sons and retailer / sales Lameyer.
If necessary we must observe to the turbulent times in Germany (stock)
That's why I am call on our on our German colleagues who have more insight and connect to the correct date according to the number 59037 (Wilkens).

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Fri May 13, 2016 9:24 am

Hi,

I knew there was something wrong
Good thing we have requested the photo
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilkens_%26_S%C3%B6hne

Marken
Um 1810 bis um 1830 führte man den kursiven Schriftzug Wilkens, später den Namen in Versalien als Meisterzeichen neben dem Beschauzeichen „Bremer Schlüssel“. Zwischen 1874 und 1886 ist die Halbmondmarke als Zeichen für 750er Silber in Gebrauch. Seit 1886 ist die Spindelpresse eingetragenes Warenzeichen des Unternehmens und wird bis heute als Fabrikmarke gestempelt.

Auftragsnummern
Neben Fabrikmarke und Reichsstempel wurden bei Wilkens oft zusätzlich Auftragsnummern gepunzt. Sie wurden in chronologischer Folge vergeben und so erlaubt es die folgende Tabelle, ältere Korpusstücke der Firma aufs Jahr genau zu datieren. Ab etwa 1927 wurden nur noch bei besonderen Einzelanfertigungen Auftragsnummern gestempelt (bei Serienware trat an ihre Stelle eine vierstellige Modellnummer). Bestecke hatten eine eigene, nicht gestempelte Modellnummernfolge. In der Tabelle ist jeweils die in den Auftragsbüchern des jeweiligen Jahres zuletzt vergebene Nummer vermerkt.

According to the production list, the year of production number 59037 has to be between 1885 -1886

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Littlejohnpotter » Fri May 13, 2016 10:36 pm

Thanks, this is older than I thought. Great information.

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Re: W Lameyer

Postby Dendriet » Sat May 14, 2016 5:07 am

Hi Littlejohnpotter,

My pleasure

I knew the order number of Wilkens was the key.
The data of Wilkens were stored in my PC, but lost for some reasons.

I wanted to be clever to develop this through the retailer's mark
Both stories Wilkens and Lameyer are correct, only in a different time for certain reasons
Finally, still decided to get the right data through Wilkens, (this time by Wikipedia)

Here's a good example, how important it is, to have a picture of the object

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Dendriet


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