Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

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Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby theendofish » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:24 am

Hello
This is my first post but I was browsing the forum for some time now. Usually I can find what I'm looking for online but this piece got me. From what I gathered it is Portugal, Oporto, after 1938- I of course can be wrong because this is a first Portuguese piece I have ever bought. I would like to ask for some good samaritan to help me identify the makers mark and tell me if I'm correct in what I found. The mark is a scale or a bell tower( the makers mark) and there are only 2 marks total on the piece. I will be really grateful for your help. The piece is 833 silver with enamel front and it holds a mini rosary if that helps.
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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby Funkel » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:22 am

Usually silversmiths Portuguese brands carry a letter, initial of his name. Can identify? would not hurt a more detailed picture.

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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby theendofish » Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:00 pm

HelLO
Thank you for the answer. I'll try to take better picture and post it today. I had not seenough any letters. The first is the 833 second standard mark and the second just looks like a scale ...now when I Think About It Maybe It's not a scale but a letter "V" stylized as a scale. I'll take better pictures and will be back with you shortly. Thank you once again.

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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby theendofish » Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:19 pm

I'm sorry it took me so long but I had to buy a new camera and it took a white. Anyway below are the pictures in which you can clearly see makers mark. I couldn't capture the Porto mark but I'm pretty sure that's what I saw. Any help will be help. Even a reference list.

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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby Funkel » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:47 am

I think we've been lucky, I attached photo of "Marcas de Cantrastes e Ourives Portugueses"
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Yo creo que hemos tenido suerte, le adjunto foto del libro "Marcas de Cantrastes e Ourives Portugueses"
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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby dognose » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:32 am

We had had a question relating to Alberto Dias Magalhães before on the forum, but unfortunately the images are no longer viewable, but at least we know that he was also a maker of cigarette cases.

See: viewtopic.php?t=14481

Trev.

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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby theendofish » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:00 pm

Thank you tremendously! !! I have no idea who this maker was but I hope uncle Google will know. I owe you!

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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby theendofish » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:04 pm

One more question. Am I right if it comes to dating that it will be 1938-ish? And Oporto?

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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby theendofish » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:07 pm

Ok I think that the popost that you linked answerved my question regarding the city. But still dating...I Think I'll Go With 1938-ish. But again I'm not sure.

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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby Funkel » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:59 pm

Theendofish friend, the mark of 833 mils was used in Porto between 1938 and 1984.
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Re: Filigree Rosary book Portugal, Porto? Makers mark?

Postby theendofish » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:16 pm

Thank you very much : Funkel and dognose ! You rock


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