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Id hallmarks before XVIIIC (German?)
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:37 am
by M.Olag
Hi!
I will appreciate if anybody can id these marks.
It is an authentic silver piece , probably German, made before XVIII century.
P.S. I'm sorry for single picture. I can't post any more, because owner of this plate doesn't let me post full view.
Re: Id hallmarks before XVIIIC (German?)
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:59 pm
by oel
Hi Olag,
Hello,
Welcome to the forum.
Yes, I believe German assay mark; 12 above Z for the city of Zittau in Saxony date used 1731.
The 12 stands for 12 Lot=.750 or 75% fine silver.
The maker's mark M.O
The zig zag mark has been made by assayer who removed some silver for an assay test. See;
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=6550&p=13635&hilit=zig+zag#p13635"
For the information see Marc Rosenberg LF#4965
http://diglit.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/digl ... 8deae9ca94"
Regards,
Oel
Re: Id hallmarks before XVIIIC (German?)
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:37 am
by M.Olag
Oel!
You brought joy to my soul!
I have read "Der Goldschmiede Merkzeichen..." of 1922 without any success =)
Big Russian thanks to you for the link and the source, they make my happy!
Re: Id hallmarks before XVIIIC (German?)
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:10 am
by Theoderich
now the problem is, that Rosenberg have no makersmarks
I have a little list with some makers from Zittau
there was a master Martin Ortscheid (He made his masterly piece in 1701)
so I think the time 1710 - 1740 is a realistic estimate
is there a engraving?
Re: Id hallmarks before XVIIIC (German?)
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:38 am
by Theoderich
Re: Id hallmarks before XVIIIC (German?)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:10 am
by JBA
I would love to see the piece these marks are on!